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i just recetly got a walker female off of sweat it she is seventh months and was never fooled with.i have had her in the woods a hand full of times and she has seen about ten coons on the ground .she is goin with the other dogs about fifty to a hundred yards then coming back she walks in front of us about forty yards all the way to the dogs treed then at the tree she will jump up on it a few times but never bark but fights the coon like a broke dog not sure if she just needs time or anyone knows what can help.

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awful young to expect a whole lot imo tie back at the tree dont let her have any of the action for a while again contray to what people say they all dont start at 3 months old lol

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TAKE HER ALONG &JUST LET HER IN THE BOX,LET YOUR OTHER DOG'S HUNT SHE WILL HEAR THE BARKING AND WILL GET WORKED UP AND WANT TO GO WITH THEM DO THIS A COUPLE TIME'S.MAKE SURE SHE DON'T GET AHOLD OF ANY COON TIE HER BACK.DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THAT BLOODLINE.I HAVE A PUP OUT OF TEQUILA CANE THAT IS 10 MOUNTH'S OLD RUNNING &TREEING HER OWN COON ,LIKE THEY SAY NOT EVERY PUP START'S YOUNG .HANG IN THERE DON'T GIVE UP YET SHE IS STILL YOUNG.

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how often should you take that young of a dog out hunting? 1 time a week?

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how often should you take that young of a dog out hunting? 1 time a week?

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Let it be a puppy. Keep taking it to the woods and let it do what it wants for awhile... if the pup is gonna make it, it will let you know on its own.

If you want to accelerate it a little bit put out a feeder bucket so it can come across red hot tracks pretty regularly. Don't let these idiots tell you feeder buckets are gonna ruin your pup either. There's a huge difference between hunting a 7 yr old dog on buckets and a puppy.

Dont tie it back from anything for awhile either... the pup will let you know when its time to start leashing her up. If she starts treeing good and wants to leave and go on that's when you start tying her up.

Bottom line is just let it be a puppy for awhile.

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Dont tie it back from anything for awhile either... the pup will let you know when its time to start leashing her up. If she starts treeing good and wants to leave and go on that's when you start tying her up.

Bottom line is just let it be a puppy for awhile. [/B][/QUOTE]

seems like thats what hes been doing , why would the pup tree if its gonna get what it wants ??????/ rewarding for somthing it didnt do makes no sense to me, the pup loves to fight a coon but wont bark treed
and you say dont tie it back ??? we should put up a poll on how many people agree with you and how many agree with me

and your a trainer ????? guess if it pays by the month why speed it up makes more sense or i guess $$ for you

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The dog is 7 months old. 7 months.

Coondogs are born, not made. I don't care who the trainer is, if you start with junk you are gonna end up with junk. If the pup has it in it, its gonna show him when to push it. What exactly does tying a puppy back off a dead coon teach a pup other than to bark at a dead coon laying on the ground? Oh yeah.. nothing. If a pup is gonna tree its gonna do it on its own.

I'm not real sure why you are fired up over me offering my advice but take a Xanax bud... Its really not that deep. I know what works for me and people pay me good money because I deliver results. So you can keep doing what you do and ill keep doing what I do and we can all have a Merry Christmas.

Have a nice day Merle.

Btw... I don't start puppies anymore but I've started enough to fill semi truck. So next time you want to imply that I am ripping people off maybe you should know what your talking about.. simple minded people post simple minded comments I guess.

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The dog is 7 months old. 7 months.

Coondogs are born, not made. I don't care who the trainer is, if you start with junk you are gonna end up with junk. If the pup has it in it, its gonna show him when to push it. What exactly does tying a puppy back off a dead coon teach a pup other than to bark at a dead coon laying on the ground? Oh yeah.. nothing. If a pup is gonna tree its gonna do it on its own.

I'm not real sure why you are fired up over me offering my advice but take a Xanax bud... Its really not that deep. I know what works for me and people pay me good money because I deliver results. So you can keep doing what you do and ill keep doing what I do and we can all have a Merry Christmas.

Have a nice day Merle.

Btw... I don't start puppies anymore but I've started enough to fill semi truck. So next time you want to imply that I am ripping people off maybe you should know what your talking about.. simple minded people post simple minded comments I guess.

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i just recetly got a walker female off of sweat it she is seventh months and was never fooled with.i have had her in the woods a hand full of times and she has seen about ten coons on the ground .she is goin with the other dogs about fifty to a hundred yards then coming back she walks in front of us about forty yards all the way to the dogs treed then at the tree she will jump up on it a few times but never bark but fights the coon like a broke dog not sure if she just needs time or anyone knows what can help.

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X2!

I currently am hunting the first pup i have ever started and trained 100% on my own...ive watched my dad and my buddy work dogs through the years....helped and learned....

My buddy said he would gladly let me keep a pup from the litter we had but he did not have the time or energy to train 2 dogs and he was gunna work his own...i said i could handle it.....but really had no idea what to do lol....

Long and short is with a good natural dog, it is fairly simple....i showed him a caged coon when he was 9 months old...let it go and let him tree it....a few days later i took him on a walk in the dark...didnt carry the gun or anything...i just wanted to haul him and get him used to lights and the woods at nite etc to start him in another month or 2 when the weather broke.....sure enough that sucker done treed a coon! I couldnt believe it! Smokin hot track...track was 30ft long lol...he did a nice job...i tied him to the tree and ran to the truck to get the gun.....he been running and treeing his own coon the last 2 months....sure i work with him on little things....staying treed...learning to go hunting on his own etc...but that comes with time and expirience....he is doing a fine job and running good tracks and getting treed right...not a year old and i am confident i could likely have him a nitech before his first bday if i wanted and didnt hit any hiccups....i dont want to...going to wait till fall when he is older...i do t like taking younguns to the nite hunts to learn bad habits...i think its easier and better when they are older and straight...thats just me...

But starting a natural coondog aint rocket science imo.....who knows what my pup will make...but he has treed probably somewhere around 50 coon the last 2 months...doing a real nice job and getting better every nite....thats all i ask for at this age...progression...

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Dont tie it back from anything for awhile either... the pup will let you know when its time to start leashing her up. If she starts treeing good and wants to leave and go on that's when you start tying her up.

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Did y'all forget we are talking about 7 (seven) month old pup? I don't think anywhere I said I walk around shooting coon out for fun. Its not the same difference. If a 7 month old pup goes hunting good and is at the tree with an old dog and I roll out a coon I'm not gonna tie a 7 month old pup back because he's not treeing. He's 7 months old.

I am a firm believer that more dogs are made culls than are born. Go ahead and tie a puppy back off a coon because he's not hammered down. Why dont you go ahead and stomp his guts out for treeing an opposum at 7 months old too.

I give up. I offered advice, you didn't like it. Next time grow up a bit and realize that just because someone does it different doesn't make it wrong. You start one how you want and ill keep putting out genuine coon treers.

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I do have one question though... what exactly is accomplished by tying a 7 month old pup back off a coon that's shot out?

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X2!

I currently am hunting the first pup i have ever started and trained 100% on my own...ive watched my dad and my buddy work dogs through the years....helped and learned....

My buddy said he would gladly let me keep a pup from the litter we had but he did not have the time or energy to train 2 dogs and he was gunna work his own...i said i could handle it.....but really had no idea what to do lol....

Long and short is with a good natural dog, it is fairly simple....i showed him a caged coon when he was 9 months old...let it go and let him tree it....a few days later i took him on a walk in the dark...didnt carry the gun or anything...i just wanted to haul him and get him used to lights and the woods at nite etc to start him in another month or 2 when the weather broke.....sure enough that sucker done treed a coon! I couldnt believe it! Smokin hot track...track was 30ft long lol...he did a nice job...i tied him to the tree and ran to the truck to get the gun.....he been running and treeing his own coon the last 2 months....sure i work with him on little things....staying treed...learning to go hunting on his own etc...but that comes with time and expirience....he is doing a fine job and running good tracks and getting treed right...not a year old and i am confident i could likely have him a nitech before his first bday if i wanted and didnt hit any hiccups....i dont want to...going to wait till fall when he is older...i do t like taking younguns to the nite hunts to learn bad habits...i think its easier and better when they are older and straight...thats just me...

But starting a natural coondog aint rocket science imo.....who knows what my pup will make...but he has treed probably somewhere around 50 coon the last 2 months...doing a real nice job and getting better every nite....thats all i ask for at this age...progression...

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I agree...it really is like a switch with most dogs....the handler just has to be patient and watch for signs that the pup is ready....when ours start treeing barn cats we start tying them up more and start the coon training....

I firmly believe you can ruin a dog...or never bring oht its full potential if you push it when it is not ready....

If it has the natural traits and you wait till it is ready training is pretty easy....

I watched my buddy start his with an old dog.....our pups are littermates...he started taking his in nov....6m old...i waited till jan and started mine alone...right now id say both dogs are on the same stage and i do believe mine shows more promise of being a better dog...at the same time ive had mine in the woods 4x more since the weather broke...but seems my buddy would been farther ahead by waiting...he didnt accomplish much by taking his pup with the older dog...just last nite i watched that pup me too the old dog...he me toos my pup if me and my buddy end up hunting close on accident....my dog doesnt even lift his head or perk his ears when we cross paths and he can hear my buddies dog....


Different guys believe in different methods and train differently....to each his own...nothing wrong with that....im far from a world class dog trainer...but if they all start as easy as mine did i think i could be lol....i laugh when i think about how easy it was....i did/do spend a ton of time in the woods with him...but thats what makes a coon dog...time in the woods and expirience....once that switch comes on you gotta stay on that dog..dog dont learn much tied to a box...

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