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i think there are indeed .

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Dead loner is the only kind i'll feed. Hunting a dog by itself is in my oppinion the only way to have a dog reach it's full potential and yes I agree MANY dogs kick it in a extra gear when put in a cast. And those are normally the gooduns

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I think they do. I know when I pull up at a club house my female puts her game face on and most always gets treed faster in a hunt.

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Billy, yes she does step it up a notch when hunted with company. She will even step it up another notch if you lay her up 3 nights before the hunt. When I made her a NITECH, I never even pleasure hunted her. I just went out to the pen and took her to the hunts. She made NITECH in 4 hunts with respectable scores. When I won the $297 PKC money on her, I did the same.
If I am not mistaken, you just scored 675+ with her last weekend. When you called and said you wanted something you could win with, I told you I had it. Now you have it and I think you are going to have a good year with her. She is a nice female and we hated to see her go, but I couldn't hunt them all. Good Luck with her.

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does it make a dog better ?? or do they just get better at what they are strongest at? does it make them a dead loner ? or does it just make them not care what the other dogs are doing or have they been set up and shocked for going to dogs to make them a dead loner natural independence is what you would think most would want not one that has to be by itself to look its best jmo

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The best pressure tree dog I ever owned was never hunted one night by himself, ever. He was a gr. nt. and would fall out of a red hot race and blow the top out and let everthing go right on down the hollow barking every breath. What I am saying is he was born with the gene in his body to do that. I could have hunted him every night by himself and it would not made him a better tree dog.

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hunting a dog by itself means the dog has to do it all to tree a coon... it by no means makes one independant... they are either born that way or made that way... jmo

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I hunted mine alone most of his life, partially because he was junky as a pup and would switch over and partially because I just like the peace and quiet and can tell what a dogs doing when I'm not bull shi*****. He's almost independent to a fault at times, but I'll take that over them covering pieces of crap any day.

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I hunted mine alone most of his life, partially because he was junky as a pup and would switch over and partially because I just like the peace and quiet and can tell what a dogs doing when I'm not bull shi*****. He's almost independent to a fault at times, but I'll take that over them covering pieces of crap any day.

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This dog wants no company, if it's even a close race to the tree, he'll go on if he gets beat and be treed somewhere else by the time you done looking or at last struck on a different coon. I agree, I don't want them covering bastar*# but I've sure been beat by em a few times.

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This dog wants no company, if it's even a close race to the tree, he'll go on if he gets beat and be treed somewhere else by the time you done looking or at last struck on a different coon. I agree, I don't want them covering bastar*# but I've sure been beat by em a few times.

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I understand, and mine not being the type to get part of a coon has sure cost him. I've treed several just after the 2 hours is up that would've put me ahead. He's a coon dog though and whether alone or in a crowd, he'll fire off alone and never look to see who's coming. I think it's a combination of genetics and how a dog is hunted.

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Billys dog, which is the reason he started this thread, will get by herself and get part of yours too. She will flat tree coons and is hard to beat on the card. It won't matter how much she is hunted by herself, she will always be just as I have described. She is very competitive. She is a good strike dog and is going to get on the wood and she don't care if she is alone or in company.



Myself, I like an independent dog, but I want him on the tree if he is on the same track as another dog, even if he is beat to the tree. I want him to hunt off by hisself tho, if possible, and I think that is what hunting them by themselves does. It teaches them to hunt off in the direction they want to go. I don't care for a pack dog. If they hunt off to themselves, they will tree alot of coons off to themselves. JMO

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I agree with the others, independence is not gained by just merely selecting a dog out by itself.....I have an old female i rarely ever hunted her by herself, and she has always been really independent, its bred in them... you have leaders and followers in everything in life....i believe hunting them by theirselves does help in some cases when they are younger, but the dog already has it in them to do it if they will.....

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I understand, and mine not being the type to get part of a coon has sure cost him. I've treed several just after the 2 hours is up that would've put me ahead. He's a coon dog though and whether alone or in a crowd, he'll fire off alone and never look to see who's coming. I think it's a combination of genetics and how a dog is hunted.

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Hunting them alone is the only way to truley know what kind of hound you are packing. Plus you learn there every bark and that makes it easy to call them in the hunts. As far as them kicking it up a knoch in the hunts, yes some do. However most of the time it's a matter of drawing a real live coondog in the cast that has the meat every time and dosen't care what other dogs do. And that dog that " Kicks it up" Is just a dog tracking strick dog and a one bark cover dog. Once in a while they trip over a coon and get split. That dog beats a coondog 90% of the time. Most people are to blinded by whats at the end of there lead to even realize thats what there packing. I have drawn many of this type of dog, I with draw and watch them make up one exscuse after the other when they can't get treed w/o another dog doing it for them.

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Hunting them alone is the only way to truley know what kind of hound you are packing. Plus you learn there every bark and that makes it easy to call them in the hunts. As far as them kicking it up a knoch in the hunts, yes some do. However most of the time it's a matter of drawing a real live coondog in the cast that has the meat every time and dosen't care what other dogs do. And that dog that " Kicks it up" Is just a dog tracking strick dog and a one bark cover dog. Once in a while they trip over a coon and get split. That dog beats a coondog 90% of the time. Most people are to blinded by whats at the end of there lead to even realize thats what there packing. I have drawn many of this type of dog, I with draw and watch them make up one exscuse after the other when they can't get treed w/o another dog doing it for them.

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It's takes a little of everything to have a balanced dog .... dogs all have personalities and you can't train em' to be different than they are.


I've hunted dogs alone and had them get shook up around new people and dogs .... they missed hunting in crowds young and never shined in a pack like they did alone.

Some dogs need the competition .. they might like the company or just like to assert their dominance more than hunting alone.

The only right answer is the specific one that applies to you and your dog .... sure aint no cure-all for having a top notch dog ... if there was , yall think Bellar would scour the globe spending top dollar on prospects ?

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Like I said some dogs do kick it up in the nite hunts. Most just look better when hunted with a better dog.

Dirtdevil- Thats why I call friends to hunt with when I have a dog ready for the hunts. To see what they will do around strangers and dogs they don't know. Some dogs don't care and some take awhile to get use to everything.

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Hunting a dog alone at a young age helps that young dog build self confidence.

Typically, an individual who has more self confidence is one that performs better in competition.

Yes, there are some dogs that thrive on competition. I knew a good dog that when hunted alone he was good, but put him in competition whether the others were good or not he stepped it up.

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Billy sounds like you are hunting the type of hound I like get a raccoon or 2 off to its self & get part of others raccoon will win / I have 2 at my house that are this style You do have to hunt them alone that is for sure & pack hunt them too I like knowing what to expect when hunting with other hounds / not wait until your in a hunt where you can not correct !

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Billy sounds like you are hunting the type of hound I like get a raccoon or 2 off to its self & get part of others raccoon will win / I have 2 at my house that are this style You do have to hunt them alone that is for sure & pack hunt them too I like knowing what to expect when hunting with other hounds / not wait until your in a hunt where you can not correct !

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Hunting them alone is the only way to truley know what kind of hound you are packing. Plus you learn there every bark and that makes it easy to call them in the hunts. As far as them kicking it up a knoch in the hunts, yes some do. However most of the time it's a matter of drawing a real live coondog in the cast that has the meat every time and dosen't care what other dogs do. And that dog that " Kicks it up" Is just a dog tracking strick dog and a one bark cover dog. Once in a while they trip over a coon and get split. That dog beats a coondog 90% of the time. Most people are to blinded by whats at the end of there lead to even realize thats what there packing. I have drawn many of this type of dog, I with draw and watch them make up one exscuse after the other when they can't get treed w/o another dog doing it for them.

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I like the dead loner and tight on the ground type I do not want my dog coming in after a few hundered yards to check in with me that ticks me off I want to meet him at the tree if it's 2 steps away frow me or 2 miles I don't want to see him till he has the coon no matter if I'm cuttin him down a ditch in a cow pasture or in the thick timber along the river bottom I like packing a real coon dog I live and strive for the chase every second JMO....

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