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Both Sides Of Your Mouth

President Barack Obama has preached that all Americans should pay their fair share in taxes, but a government report finds that tens of thousands of federal employees — from staffers in Congress to federal agencies and even Obama's executive office — collectively owe the government billions in back taxes.

Data from the Internal Revenue Service found that more than 279,000 federal employees and retirees owed $3.4 billion in back income taxes as of Sept. 30, 2010.

The data showed that 467 employees of the House of Representatives, or about 4.2 percent of the workforce, owed more than $8.5 million. In the Senate, 217 employees, or about 3 percent of the workforce, owed $2.13 million.

Obama's staff was not immune, either, with 36 people in Obama's executive office of nearly 1,800 workers — about 2 percent — owing the government $833,970 in back taxes.

JUST MORE OF "DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO!!! WHAT A JOKE!!!

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I almost say Hooray for them. I used to be worth about a million on paper, then they said I owed them. Now I am worth $0. So let some of mine cover some of them is what I say. Ain't that the socialist way?...

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WHAT YOU ARE SAYING HE HAS SAID ON NATIONAL TV HE ALSO HAS SAID FROM DAY ONE THE RICH SHOULD PAY THERE FAIR SHARE ARE YOU RICH IF SO YOU PROB DONT LIKE THAT THE MIDDLE CLASS CAN NOT HANDLE ANOTHER REPUBLICAN RIGHT NOW

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WHAT YOU ARE SAYING HE HAS SAID ON NATIONAL TV HE ALSO HAS SAID FROM DAY ONE THE RICH SHOULD PAY THERE FAIR SHARE ARE YOU RICH IF SO YOU PROB DONT LIKE THAT THE MIDDLE CLASS CAN NOT HANDLE ANOTHER REPUBLICAN RIGHT NOW

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Figured it would be the" lone" one that would be the first to jump in on his defense team, looks like he's got a new recruit ! What would you expect from him, after all about all that he appointed had problems paying taxes, from Tres. Sec., down. When you work for the government, seems like they should be the first to be sure that their tax statements are right, as they are getting paid more than they would get in the private world, and are getting paid by the TAXPAYERS ! I have known a few folks that owed a little to the gubment, seen the IRS attach their wages and put liens on them till the got every cent plus interest and penalties owed that they could come up with .... if it works for common folks, why should gubment folks be exempt ?

brushrunretiree- Do you ever watch some of the shows on Fox Buisness, they talk about such things and the Occupy bunch along with Soros a bunch , more than you hear anywhere else.

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8 or 10 years ago I ended the year owing the I.R.S. around $2000 dollars which I waited till the last day to mail them. They started mailing me notices wanting me to send them extra money each month so I would not end up owing them at the end of the year. I never sent any extra money and never owed very much at the end of the year, but the point is if I owe them they want it now because I am a pooor working person and I might try to beat them out of it. Ha fat chance for a poor person to get any breaks, but if I would win the lottery they would take out all my taxes before I get any.

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here we go again

keep aruging on here about the president that we have now after nov be aruging about the new president i will vote for who i think can run the country the best people say if we get a repulican pres we really gonna be in trouble which they probly right because they are for the rich always was and will be if we get a democrat president we still gonna be in trouble cause i think they will be just as bad as a replucain party they all lie about what thier gonna do just to get in office then they keep right on beating the working people down just like always jmo

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OUR CURRENT PRESIDENT IS 'RICH' AND I DON'T THINK VERY MANY REPUBLICANS ARE 'FOR' HIM!!!

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OUR CURRENT PRESIDENT IS 'RICH' AND I DON'T THINK VERY MANY REPUBLICANS ARE 'FOR' HIM!!!
hell no they dont like him cause they cant figure away to take his money but they will i dont like him nither but stuck with him till next election i cant belive yall think any 1 in the high gov is going to help the middle income and the lower class working people just not going to happen just wait and see what happens on these people yall keep braggin up watch what they do when they get in office some think they walk on water you will see when they keep takin more and more away from the amercain people jmo

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HILLBILLY56

AS LONG AS WHOEVER GETS INTO 1600 PENN. AVE. ISN'T A "SOCIALIST", I'LL HOLD MY NOSE AND VOTE FOR THEM. THERE IS NO CHOICE ON THE DEMOCRATIC TICKET. IT'S SOCIALISM OR NOTHING!!!! DO YOU GET WHAT I/M SAYING???? THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA SPINS STUFF LIKE 15% TAX RATE, BUT THAT'S WHAT CAPITAL GAINS TAXES ARE, THE REPUBLICANS AREN'T GETTING A BREAK, THE ONLY INCOME THEY HAVE IS FROM INVESTMENTS. I'VE STILL GOT SOME STOCKS AND THATS WHAT I PAY, AND I'M NOT RICH FINANCIALY, JUST RICH FROM GOD AND COUNTRY AND FAMILY!!!!!!!!!!!

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YOU JUST SIT BACK AND SEE WHAT YOUR ELECTRIC BILL DOES W/ OPRAMA'S WAR ON COAL!! HIS GREEN INITIATIVE WILL BE OUR DOOM. IF HE'S RE-ELECTED, THE UNITED STATES BECOMES A "NANNY STATE"!! FOOL ME ONCE; MY FAULT. FOOL ME TWICE, WELL I AIN'T GONNA BE FOOLED TWICE. MY VOTE DOES NOT GO BY A DONKEY THIS YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND YOU BETTER WATCH THE UNITED NATIONS AND THE SMALL ARMS PACT, END AROUND THE SECOND AMENDMENT!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: here we go again

quote:
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keep aruging on here about the president that we have now after nov be aruging about the new president i will vote for who i think can run the country the best people say if we get a repulican pres we really gonna be in trouble which they probly right because they are for the rich always was and will be if we get a democrat president we still gonna be in trouble cause i think they will be just as bad as a replucain party they all lie about what thier gonna do just to get in office then they keep right on beating the working people down just like always jmo


Hill billie 56, I understand all the woes and wants you have had. I understand your health issues and the fact you ain't got long to live, Well none of us do come to think of it. But if I could give you one gift in life it would be to forget the training you got about Rich being Bad. If it passes though many more generations it's going to get so deep it is almost like a bad idea gene in a dog. It's hard to get rid of that idea gene. I had a sniff of Freedom one time and I will never forget it. Don't let that phoney maroney BS about rich you got taught and bought keep you from enjoying what little life we got left. I agree , Party don't matter, Neither one can control our minds in order to control our vote.

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AS LONG AS WHOEVER GETS INTO 1600 PENN. AVE. ISN'T A "SOCIALIST", I'LL HOLD MY NOSE AND VOTE FOR THEM. THERE IS NO CHOICE ON THE DEMOCRATIC TICKET. IT'S SOCIALISM OR NOTHING!!!! DO YOU GET WHAT I/M SAYING???? THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA SPINS STUFF LIKE 15% TAX RATE, BUT THAT'S WHAT CAPITAL GAINS TAXES ARE, THE REPUBLICANS AREN'T GETTING A BREAK, THE ONLY INCOME THEY HAVE IS FROM INVESTMENTS. I'VE STILL GOT SOME STOCKS AND THATS WHAT I PAY, AND I'M NOT RICH FINANCIALY, JUST RICH FROM GOD AND COUNTRY AND FAMILY!!!!!!!!!!!
i know where you are coming from i just dont have any faith in any 1 in our local or fed gov any more they just keep taking our rights away a little at a time you being a vet probly knows this better than alot of us look how they treated yall after risking your life for this country

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Hill billie 56, I understand all the woes and wants you have had. I understand your health issues and the fact you ain't got long to live, Well none of us do come to think of it. But if I could give you one gift in life it would be to forget the training you got about Rich being Bad. If it passes though many more generations it's going to get so deep it is almost like a bad idea gene in a dog. It's hard to get rid of that idea gene. I had a sniff of Freedom one time and I will never forget it. Don't let that phoney maroney BS about rich you got taught and bought keep you from enjoying what little life we got left. I agree , Party don't matter, Neither one can control our minds in order to control our vote.
hope im around a few more yrs but only the good lord knows that when you dont see me post on here you on her for a couple months you will know the good lord called my number i just get upset these people tell everybody how good they gonna do get in there then just as bad as what we had or worse i know not all rich people are bad people the last people i worked for were rich people they helped me but there is alot of people with money that shun the lower class people we need change but not like the oboma change

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WHERE TO START...

1. I'VE BEEN TOLD ALL MY LIFE THAT ONE PARTY IS FOR THE RICH AND ONE IS FOR THE POOR, HOW CAN THAT BE IF ALL THE TOP POLITICIANS ARE THEMSELVES 'RICH'?!!! THAT BEING SAID HOW CAN REPUBLICANS BE TRYING TO GET MR. OBAMA'S MONEY IF THEY ARE ALL ABOUT PROTECTING THE RICH?!!! BY THIS SAME LOGIC, HOW CAN MR. OBAMA BE FOR THE POOR PEOPLE WHEN HE IS IN FACT RICH?!!!

2. ANYBODY WHO TRULLY THINKS THAT GOVERNMENT OF ANY FORM CAN AND WILL BE THE ANSWER TO ALL THEIR PROBLEMS IN LIFE IS SERIOUSLY IGNORANT!!! I LIKE TO TALK ABOUT POLITICS AND TRY TO BE A PART OF OUR 'WE THE PEOPLE' COUNTRY, HOWEVER I'M NOT SO BACKWARD AS TO ASSUME THAT I NEED THE PRESIDENT TO TAKE CARE OF ME!!! EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US HAS THE OBLIGATION TO PROVIDE FOR THEIR OWN STANDARD OF LIVING!!! WE SHOULDN'T BE JEALOUS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE MORE THAN US, WE SHOULD LIVE WITHIN OUR MEANS, WHERE EVER THAT MAY BE!!! A PERSON SHOULD HAVE PRIORITIES AND SPEND THEIR MONEY ACCORDINGLY!!! IF A PERSON CHOOSES TO SPEND THEIR MONEY ON CELL PHONES, BIG SCREENS, CABLE, INTERNET, A BIGGER HOUSE, COON DOGS, CAR PAYMENTS OR ANY OTHER SORT OF LUXURY INSTEAD OF INSURANCE OR RETIREMENT, THEN THEY HAVE THAT LIBERTY, THEY DO NOT, HOWEVER HAVE THE RIGHT TO FORCE EVERYONE ELSE TO BAIL THEM OUT OF A BAD SITUATION JUST SO THEY CAN GO RIGHT BACK TO THE SAME OLD HABITS!!!

3. I'M NOT RANTING TO ANYONE IN PARTICULAR, BUT TO EVERYONE IN GENERAL!!!

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hey preacher

i get where your coming from no body should try to live above what they can afford i never did if i see july i will be 62 i worked till the company told me they couldnt let me work anylonger i worked probly 10 yrs with parkisons diease they help me get on disabilty with this diease they put you on ssi when you sign up give you alittle check and a medical card they sent to thier doctors within 3 mons i was approved they kept me on the supplment for another 3 months instead of giving me my full disabilty by doing that they didnt have to give me anyback pay when i got my first full disabilty they took my medical card away said i make to much money now the people that have never worked get the ssi and a medical card people that have worked all thier life they dont want to help them this is why i feel the way i do about our gov officals and im not posting this in anyway trying to get people to feel sorry for me

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I UNDERSTEND COMPLETELY!!! MY SECOND CHILD HAS DOWN SYNDROME AND SOME OTHER HEALTH ISSUES AND WE FELL FOR THE OLD 'GET A CHECK' SCHEME!!! LONG STORY SHORT, WE ARE NOW, AND HAVE BEEN FOR AWHILE NOW, REPAYING OUR DEAR GOVERNMENT FOR OVERPAYMENT BASED ON A CLERICAL ERROR MADE BY THE LOCAL OFFICE!!! I WILL NEVER AGAIN LOOK TO ANYONE BUT GOD ALMIGHTY TO SUPPLY MY NEEDS!!! SO FAR HE HAS A PERFECT TRACK RECORD!!!

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Is any one of them left running that swear they will get rid of the income tax system? I think the Yankees went to war with the Rebels because they were jeleous of the system. They won and they took the Plantation system back home to use as their own. Can't think of anything closer to reward and punishment than the inkum tax system and we are all slaves to it in one way or another.

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WHEN ASKED BY JAY LENO WHAT HE THOUGHT ABOUT CLOSE TO HALF OF U.S. CITIZENS NOT PAYING ANY INCOME TAX, PON PAUL SAID "WELL WE'RE ABOUT HALF WAY THERE"!!! THE FOLOW UP QUESTION WAS "WHERE DO WE GET THE MONEY TO OPERATE THE GOV.?" HIS RESPONSE "WHERE WE GOT IT BEFORE THE INCOME TAX WAS CREATED"!!! I'M ABSOLUTELY NOT PUSHING RON PAUL ON ANYONE, I DON'T AGREE WITH HIM ON EVERYTHING, OR ANYBODY ELSE FOR THAT MATTER, HOWEVER HE IS THE ONLY ONE I HAVE SEEN (OF THE CURRENT CANDIDATES) THAT HAS ADVOCATED ABOLISHING THE INCOME TAX!!!

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I DON'T WANT TO START RANTING AND RAGING ABOUT THIS, BUT IN THE MID SIXTIES, MY FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS HAD ME GO TO FORT JACKSON, S.C. AFTER A ROUSING GOOD TIME THERE, THEY DECIDED MY YOUNG A__ WAS NEEDED IN THE REPUBLIC OF VIET NAM. YOUR YOUNG, YOUR SCARED, YOU DON'T KNOW WHETHER TO **** OR GO BLIND. MAN, I WISH I'D LET THE CLEVELAND INDIANS SIGN ME TO PLAY BASEBALL! ! NO,I DON'T THINK I DO. SERVING MY COUNTRY MADE ME A BETTER MAN. I CAME HOME WITH A HEAD ON MY SHOULDERS. AN OLD GUY TOLD ME TO SAVE EVERY PENNY YOU CAN, YOU'LL NEED IT SOME DAY. I THOUGHT HE WAS CRAZY. BUT, I DID, AND I INVESTED IT AND WAS LUCKY TO SWITCH IT BEFORE THE ENRON AND OTHER STOCK MARKET DROPS. NOW, MY WIFE AND FAMILY LIVE COMFORTABLE EVEN IF IT'S IN W.V. WHEN I WAS YOUNG, I MADE WISE CRACKS ABOUT OLD GUYS SITTING AROUND WORRYING ABOUT **** THEY HAD NO CONTROL OVER. NOW, THAT OLD FART IS ME!! I WORRY ABOUT MY KIDS AND YOURS NEVER KNOWING OR BEING ABLE TO LIVE OR REACH "THE AMERICAN DREAM". I WORRY ABOUT THE COUNTRY GOING TO A NEW MONATARY SYSTEM, WIPING OUT WHAT LITTLE MONEY I HAVE. MY WIFE WILL BE WELL TAKEN CARE OF UNLESS THE INSURANCE COMPANY GOES BELLY UP. AND DON'T BOTHER ABOUT TRYING TO GET ON HER GOOD SIDE, BECAUSE WHEN YOU START WITH THE BEST, YOU WOULDN'T BE SATISFIED WITH ANYONE ELSE. {THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HUMOROUS} THE LIES LBJ TOLD THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, JUST LIKE OPRAMA, THE ONLY THING THEY WANT IS TO STAY IN POWER!!!! PEOPLE USED TO THINK I WAS OFF MY ROCKER, YOU HAVE NO FAITH IN THE GOVERNMENT? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU??? WHEN SOMETHING HITS TOO CLOSE TO WASHINGTON, THEY'LL CREATE SOMETHING TO GET ATTENTION OFF OF WHAT THEY WANT TO KEEP HUSH,HUSH!!I THINK EVERY POLITICIAN IS A CROOK, EITHER WAITING OR ALREADY MADE IT!!BUT, I DID NOT, I REPEAT, I DID NOT GO TO SERVICE AND DEFENSE OF THE UNITED STATES TO SIT HERE AND LET SOME GROUP OF "SOCIALISTS" TAKE THIS COUNTRY FROM ME. I PRAY FOR YOUR INDULGENCES IN NOVEMBER AND TO THINK ABOUT WHERE THIS COUNTRY IS HEADED!!! THANK YOU AND GOOD NIGHT.

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Well, folks, here are some answers about the President's social security number. Rather interesting.


An intensive investigation has revealed the identity of the man whose Social Security number (SSN) is being used by President Obama: Jean Paul Ludwig, who was born in France in 1890, emigrated to the United States in
1924, and was assigned SSN 042-68-4425, Obama's current SSN, in or about March of 1957. Ludwig lived most of his adult life in Connecticut . Because of that, his SSN begins with the digits 042, which are among only a select few reserved for Connecticut residents. Obama has never lived or worked in that state. Therefore, there is no reason on earth for his SSN to start with the digits 042. None whatsoever! Now comes the best part! Ludwig spent the final months of his life in Hawaii , where he died. Conveniently, Obama's grandmother, Madelyn Payne Dunham, worked part-time in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii Courthouse, and therefore had access to the SSNs of deceased individuals. The Social Security Administration was never informed of Ludwig's death, and because he never received Social Security benefits, there were no benefits to stop and therefore, no questions were ever raised. The suspicion, of course, is that Dunham, knowing her grandson was not a U.S. citizen, either because he was born in Kenya or became a citizen of Indonesia upon his adoption by Lolo Soetoro simply scoured the probate records until she found a deceased person who had not been receiving Social Security benefits, and selected Mr. Ludwig's Connecticut SSN for Obama. Just wait until Trump gets past the birth certificate and onto the issue of Barry O's use of a stolen SSN. You will see leftist heads exploding, because they will have no way of defending Obama. Although many Americans do not understand the meaning of the term "natural born" there are few who do understand that if you are using someone else's SSN it is a clear indication of fraud. Let's all start putting the word out to everybody on our mailing lists.


*You can check this out...*


at: http://www.sonorannews.com/archives...ge-everify.html

THIS EXPLANATION OUGHT TO BE GOOD!!!!!

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