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what is the main reason a dog slick trees just wanna get some thoughts on it?

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HANDLER ERROR / TRAINING

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not finishing track

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No tracking , breed more for treeing and lack of a butt kicking when they do lie and most of the rules in the hunt reward a tree dog too much and than there are some who do care if they tree a coon which leads to breeding up more of these slick treeing idiots

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I think with some dogs it has to do with lack of track drive, they dont double check their tree and tree on tapped trees.
Now some dogs just go and tree on just about every tree in the woods, I cant come up with an explanation of that

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lack of track speed i once had a dog could run a coon like he was running a deer treed lots of coons very few slicks would run off and leave most dogs trailing

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other than the above mentioned things messing with squirrels,is a big one especially those little flying ones JMHO

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Laziness, lack of nose,drive,ability ....treeing squirrels. Getting competitive ..young age



And lets face it....people that dont know how to train a TREE dog which is the #1 reason!!!!!!

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breeding for one bark tree dogs.

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to much tree bred and not enough track have seen it the most in the walker breed dont think you will ever get 1 broke that starts slick treeing but 1 way put it in dog heaven then you dont have to wear your self out going to empty trees all night jmo

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Not being made to finish the track, some tree squirrels, some tree mice, some have been petted up on the tree so much as a pup theyre just simply not trying to find anything. They just go get on a tree so they can get petted.jmo

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When it comes to training. How does bad training cause slick treeing? I have one theory that if they are given too many caged coon, and they just get used to slamming the tree without thinking about it and not figuring the track out they will tree slick. I agree they try and tree squirrels and young ages don't help either. But can you break a dog of it?

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Not being made to finish the track, some tree squirrels, some tree mice, some have been petted up on the tree so much as a pup theyre just simply not trying to find anything. They just go get on a tree so they can get petted.jmo

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right time of the yr for a good lay-up dog Gambling dog
to get a few

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Here a lot of dogs have been pulling up short. We had 60 days of 100+ temps and no rain. They could smell it on the tree better than the ground. We have thin woods along the creeks and beyound that in fertilized farm ground. Up to a few years ago all they planted was wheat. So it was all bare at the same time. Now some are going to no till and putting in differant crops. It is a lot better but we had distemper come threw end of last winter. Then the drought hit and every thing had to drink at the river. That was the only thing with water left in it. The yotes had a feild day and are as fat as pigs and plentyful as ants.
We just got 2.6 in. this weak and my gyp out of Extream Insane X is out of heat. SO I SHOULD HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD HUNTING TONIGHT........except for deer season is open and don't have much land to hunt right now.
If the tree is slick I just call them off and send them on but now that they have no excuse I will shine the tree before I tie them back. If it is slick I will switch them off the tree.
Our biggest problem here is if they go across the farm ground but since the rain that excuse is over.
I thought they had went to crap but I took them to the east side of they state were there are trees, hills and grass land and they can do verry well.

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most slick treers were bred and the rest of the slick treers were trained. chunk away the cages for coons and put the dogs in the timber that way you will know for sure what you got. letting a dog bark at a coon in a cage aint gonna help em any. if their bred to be coon dogs they will show you if youll just hunt em.

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what is the main reason a dog slick trees just wanna get some thoughts on it?

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More Walker dogs being hunted than any other breed! LOL

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i have a dog that i tried for a week and bought it. he treed several coon and did a great job. i bought him and started hunting his guts out. he fell apart. ive never seen a dog tree as much as this retard does. i cant fix him and im starting to think i wasted my money. im just about to give up.

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I think there is a general consensus that dogs are more proned to doing this early in age. There has been many suggestions that the reason is due to training failures, and some have suggested it is in their breeding. It could be a possible combination and any breed is just as likely to do it. I don't think we should "give up" on these dogs, as I think they get more accurate as they age. Please continue to make suggestions on how to improve accuracy, and decrease slick treeing. Thanks, also suggest what training errors cause slick treeing.

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A dog doesnt slick tree for the sake of barking up an empty tree. A dog slick trees when the coon wins and they get outsmarted. Its bred in. Brains and tracking ability.

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Some dogs have been trained not to ever come back no matter and yes they will grab a tree and you can tell them plain as talking, sayin "Come, get me" . " I got better sense than to come to you and get my AS wore out". I am positive of that on bad nights with nothing walking. Then it gets easier for a dog to do it if he just plain gets tired.

A dumb dog like that should not have to get rescued. It might take a year but he should be "welcomed home" if ain't doodally walking. Get his praise for being honest . And wear his little brown ring around his neck if he grabs another slick tree.



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I have raised and trained nearly every dog i ever had basically the same way. Some were accurate coon finders nearly all the time in nearly all type situations and some slick treed 90% of the time they treed and many were somewhere in between. I gave myself too much credit when a dog turned out nice and got too down on myself when a dog never really figured it out. You can teach a dog many things, but i dont believe you can teach a dog to drive a track with there head in the air and force a hard running coon to climb and have the right tree. I believe thats in them from birth or it isnt. I have owned both kinds.

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I have raised and trained nearly every dog i ever had basically the same way. Some were accurate coon finders nearly all the time in nearly all type situations and some slick treed 90% of the time they treed and many were somewhere in between. I gave myself too much credit when a dog turned out nice and got too down on myself when a dog never really figured it out. You can teach a dog many things, but i dont believe you can teach a dog to drive a track with there head in the air and force a hard running coon to climb and have the right tree. I believe thats in them from birth or it isnt. I have owned both kinds.

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I agree with that,any of them will miss some but any dog ive ever been serious about hunting would be gauranteed to have the coon if they ever got on a good running track. And most of the time the tree will look like a climb or die situation.

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