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im a senior in high school and i fell out of a tree kicking a coon out broke my back, my chest, and both wrist im getting back on my feet now and coon hunting is my passion i love it more than anything! im wanting to start comp hunting and i aint got nobody here to teach me or tell me what to do id really appreciate any advice or tips anyone has for me i want to someday get my name out there. im a die hard hunter! thanks for the help yall.

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Originally posted by Cody farned
im a senior in high school and i fell out of a tree kicking a coon out broke my back, my chest, and both wrist im getting back on my feet now and coon hunting is my passion i love it more than anything! im wanting to start comp hunting and i aint got nobody here to teach me or tell me what to do id really appreciate any advice or tips anyone has for me i want to someday get my name out there. im a die hard hunter! thanks for the help yall.

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Registered: Aug 2009
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and scorecard read ityes there are cheats but there are good people in the hunts to that will help you figure it out
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you need to be able to quote the rules line for line know the rule number and letter you can get on ukc front page, hunting programs ,coonhounds.rules good luck and get well soon

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There are lots of good people in the night hunts.There are also some that cheat. My advice is get a score card and memorize the back you can also order the advisor from UKC book store that will help but it costs $15, I think. The best thing I can tell you know your dog. Be a good sport, no one wins every time and not always does the best dog win. Do your best to see the cast you are on is run honestly. Be honest yourself. When people say "he's fun to hunt with,because he knows the rules and when you're in a cast with him you know it will be honest." your huints will be more fun and I can tell you your repetition will follow you in the hunts good or bad. Good luck. And have fun.

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There are lots of good people in the night hunts.There are also some that cheat. My advice is get a score card and memorize the back you can also order the advisor from UKC book store that will help but it costs $15, I think. The best thing I can tell you know your dog. Be a good sport, no one wins every time and not always does the best dog win. Do your best to see the cast you are on is run honestly. Be honest yourself. When people say "he's fun to hunt with,because he knows the rules and when you're in a cast with him you know it will be honest." your huints will be more fun and I can tell you your repetition will follow you in the hunts good or bad. Good luck. And have fun.

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Just be honest on what your dog does and call him properly.Your integrity is more important that a dishonest win, always remember that as other people will remember that to and the word spreads good or bad.

Hope you get well soon and wish you the best of luck.

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Like everybody else on here, first and foremost know your dog. Read the rules, then read the rules again, then again. Then practice applying the rules with your buddies when you pleasure hunt with them.

After you have done all that, here is my tip of the week (so to speak)- When calling your dog struck, Call (benny struck), not (strike benny) When calling your dog treed, Call (Benny Treed) not (Tree Benny)

The reason for this is that many judges, (Not All) will award the strike and/or tree, to the dogs name they here called first. So if you and another handler are calling your dogs at about the same time, the judge will have a tendancy to award the points to the dogs name that they hear first. If the judge cannot tell who struck first or treed first, they will then split the strike/tree with whomever you are calling against. But over the years I have seen this simple little calling stratagy benifit the person calling the dogs name first.

Good Luck!

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Well, this piece of advice will serve you well in competition and pleasure hunting.
Always keep your safety and others safety first and foremost. I do not care if you are young and feel invincible, never do anything as silly as climbing a tree and try to physically dislodge a coon from a tree. That would be hard enough to do in the daytime let alone at night. Was it dark when you done that?
I heard of a guy falling out of a tree while coonhunting and he died.

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Location: Fayetteville.Ga
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Pleasure hunt and have a good time. You gona be disapointe when you start comp hunting. few GOOD guys and a lot of the OTHERS. And that is the truth.

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Location: central Missouri
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Look for a local club, ukc can help you find any in your area, call the contact person and ask about the club and see if they have club hunts, if they do then go as a guest and see if this will help you start you on your comp. expieriance. If you like the club and members then join and support that club.( More comp. hunters need to support local clubs, with out them there will not be any comp. hunts.

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Sorry to hear about your fall,wish you a speedy recovery.That why i don't climb a tree and jump them out,have found out my 30 year's of hunting that is a good way to get a dog to leave the tree after it tree's.The dog just want's to keep looking for a track.My opinion on the competion hunting is don't start,have been down that road.Alot of people will try and cheat and if you don't know all of the RULE's your just wasting your time and money.Just look at the post on here about question's on how would you score this,how do you scratch a mean dog etc. There are so many diffrent way's that people try and bend the rules it is not funny.I know that there will be alot of people that will post negative thing's about what i have said,but i know how people are at hunt's.They can be your hunting buddy all week but when you show up at a hunt and get them in your cast forget it,everyone for them self.Everyone want's to win no matter what the cost,right or wrong they will try everything that they have learned from the cheater's.So like i said that is just my opinion,so if you enjoy coon hunting just hunt the hair off your dog and enjoy them. That way you don't have to wonder who is going to STAB YOU IN THE BACK.And just because a dog has a title don't mean that it is any better than one without a title,most of the handler's should get the title not the dog.Alot of slick handler's out there.GOOD LUCK,like i said just my opinion every one else will have different opinion's.

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Here's some advice, and its worth exactly what you'll pay for it.

1. Just start going to hunts. Pay for your education and you'll appreciate it more than if someone gives it to you.
2. Take ALL advice with a grain of salt.
3. Buy a stopwatch, and use it. Use it pleasure hunting. Use it competition hunting. Time your bathroom breaks. Well, maybe not but you get the point.
4. Know your dog.
5. Know your dog.
6. Know your dog.
7. Know your dog.
8. Don't let naysayers on message boards discourage you from going to hunts. Chances are they know less about nite hunts that they're telling you and allowed themselves to get screwed once (or thought they did) and then quit.
9. Hold your ground. If you KNOW you're right, don't give an inch. However, be d@#$ sure you're right or you're about to look like an idiot.
10. Have fun. If you start to take it too seriously or too personally, you'll ruin it for yourself.

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Pleasure hunt and have a good time. You gona be disapointe when you start comp hunting. few GOOD guys and a lot of the OTHERS. And that is the truth.

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Like many have said know your dog. And go to have fun! You'll learn along the way.

Remember; have fun!

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hate to hear about you fall,hope you recover well..like the others said rules is number one.know them inside and out and how to interpret them the corect way,be honest with yourself and others and be confident in yourself as a handler (that will come over time) and be confident in your dog and know him like the back of your hand.with you being young you may be pushed around on occasion dont let that get you down or get discouraged and quit,know the rules and stand up for yourself and call them on a bad call if they try and put one over on you.it's sad to say but this will happen at some point and time when you first start out.as others said go to your local club and start out in some club hunts or spectate with someone on a few hunts befor jumping in to it.you will make some bad calls and make a few mistakes when you first start out and blow a cast win or two just consider those
entry fees as learning experiances..i cant strees enough about knowing the rules,know them inside and out befor you start competition hunting,i hope this helps some and i wish you luck in the future.

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the only thing i can say is stand up for your dog dont let know one bull **** you. put your foot down.

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Thank you guys i really appreciate all the help I'm getting me a rule book and gonna learn it from cover to cover for sure i have a dog I know very well that I wanna take out to the comps I'm a honest guy and won't be no cheater or nothing I'm gonna call my dog how it is crushed body still ain't kept me out of the woods

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I've been in the hunts and pleasure hunting for 20+ years. Learn the rules. Expect to loose some and win a few. Have a good time.
1. Read the back of a score card several times, most clubs have plenty of extra's, they'll give you one.
2. Ask a nice guy at the club which cast would be best to spectate on, spectate several casts and get the feel of it first before handling.
3. Know your dog very well.
4. Practice with a score card with your hunting buddies on a pleasure hunt.
5. Most important when you start handling: Know that it is your dog that is competing not you. If your dog screws up then you be first to admit it. If you screw up admit it. Follow the rules.
6. Call it like it is and don't expect to always win.
Over a long time you'll make friends and have a good time and you'll own a few NT Ch's. These guys that come out going to make a name real fast usually don't last more than a year or two.
I've hunted in several different states, good guys are everywhere and bad guys are few. It's kinda like the mean dogs, there's a few, but if your dog gets in with mean dogs alot, you may have the mean dog. Same goes with handlers. Period.
Be good and have fun for a lifetime.
That's been my experiance. I love it.

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Cody,

I've been competition hunting since the hunts were 3 hour hunts, and we would have 100 registered dogs on a Saturday night UKC hunt, I've been at it a while....

You have received some very sage advice already.... Probably the most important things that I will reiterate are to know the rules and know your dog....(that is the most important in my mind). If you don't know your dog well enough and be HONEST WITH YOURSELF about what you dog is doing....that is where most problems come from. If your dog is an every breath tree dog, and shuts up on the tree, chances are it's moving.....if you are minued when the dog moves, take the deserved minus....don't defend the dog....

Know the rules, and remember that one of the most important words in the rulebook, is also one of the least remembered word. HONOR, they are called HONOR rules....not all folks are honorable in a competition...be honorable at all times. The way I see it, it isn't worth arguing about, they have a hunt somewhere every Friday and Saturday night. I am out to have fun, to enjoy my dog, and to enjoy the company of folks who are out to enjoy their dog....If I'm not having fun any more, I'm gonna put mine in the truck and try again another night.

Remember that the best dog does NOT always win, just like the fastest car in a NACAR race is not always the first to cross the finish line. Learn to appreciate good dog work, even if your dog is not the one doing it....compliment your competitor when their dog does a good job, even when you are mad at your dog for not performing well.... Remember that about 75% of folks that enter on a given night will go home a "loser"....Which means that you are going to lose some nights....It's part of the game.

And the best advice I can give you.....learn to enjoy it for a "game". Learn the right and wrong way to handle situations, including how to question a call made by the judge. Know how to handle that occasional bully, troublemaker, and cheat. You will find very few of them, but when you do, they can sure ruin your night....knowing the proper way to deal with them will make things go smoother for you. Always shake the hand of the man that wins your cast, and never go home "mad".....It will make coming back next week a lot easier.

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Here's some advice, and its worth exactly what you'll pay for it.

1. Just start going to hunts. Pay for your education and you'll appreciate it more than if someone gives it to you.
2. Take ALL advice with a grain of salt.
3. Buy a stopwatch, and use it. Use it pleasure hunting. Use it competition hunting. Time your bathroom breaks. Well, maybe not but you get the point.
4. Know your dog.
5. Know your dog.
6. Know your dog.
7. Know your dog.
8. Don't let naysayers on message boards discourage you from going to hunts. Chances are they know less about nite hunts that they're telling you and allowed themselves to get screwed once (or thought they did) and then quit.
9. Hold your ground. If you KNOW you're right, don't give an inch. However, be d@#$ sure you're right or you're about to look like an idiot.
10. Have fun. If you start to take it too seriously or too personally, you'll ruin it for yourself.

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Originally posted by Cody farned
im a senior in high school and i fell out of a tree kicking a coon out broke my back, my chest, and both wrist im getting back on my feet now and coon hunting is my passion i love it more than anything! im wanting to start comp hunting and i aint got nobody here to teach me or tell me what to do id really appreciate any advice or tips anyone has for me i want to someday get my name out there. im a die hard hunter! thanks for the help yall.

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Cracks me up how people NEVER get beat, they ALWAYS get cheated...
Here's some more free advice. Don't LET people cheat you and pack a coondog...AND beware the big bad handler!

Seriously, just be SURE you're right, then stand your ground if you have to. People only get cheated when they allow themselves to be. What kind of man (or woman for that matter) walks around for two hours, feeling like they're getting shafted, but doesn't do anything about it?

I'm certainly no big-time, high rolling competition hunter, but I do enjoy going when I can. I'll be ****ed if I'm gonna avoid something I enjoy doing because I'm scared some big bad handler is gonna take advantage of poor little old me...

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Originally posted by Cory Highfill
Cracks me up how people NEVER get beat, they ALWAYS get cheated...
Here's some more free advice. Don't LET people cheat you and pack a coondog...AND beware the big bad handler!

Seriously, just be SURE you're right, then stand your ground if you have to. People only get cheated when they allow themselves to be. What kind of man (or woman for that matter) walks around for two hours, feeling like they're getting shafted, but doesn't do anything about it?

I'm certainly no big-time, high rolling competition hunter, but I do enjoy going when I can. I'll be ****ed if I'm gonna avoid something I enjoy doing because I'm scared some big bad handler is gonna take advantage of poor little old me...

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I will make for sure I stand my ground and don't let this get by when I know I'm right

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