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dmbaker3
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Yadkin River Champ

Just wondering if there is anybody out there that has had the privilege of hunting behind Yadkin River Champ, Crowder, Rattler or Jeff and would like to share a story of there experience. I didn’t have the honor in hunting behind some of these find hounds and I love to hear the stories. I have spent many nights listing to Yadkin River hounds in the timber along side my good friend Mr. Weller tell me stories and it would usually start out with “ you should have heard or seen there ancestors “ lol Dig out those old memory banks fellas and share some camp fire stories

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You should try to get ahold of Jimmy Meeks . Jack Dobson or Pete Barber. I am sure one of these guys could help you out.

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dmbaker3
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Thanks straightdrive but I know Mr. meeks , Mr. Barber and I know of Mr dobson. I just wanted to know if anybody else might have a good story they would like to share that have actually spent time in the woods behind one of these hounds. Doesn't matter good or bad, lol . Your not going to waver me one way or the other, I'm Yadkin River sold. Just think of this thread as if you were sitting in the barber shop waiting to get your gord cut and your shooting the bull.No intentions here, just would like to hear a good story.

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Never hunted with any of them , but I had a female out of Champ and a female out of Pattisons Mahogany Tom that was as tough as they come.
Only fault I had with her was that she wouldn't cold-trail a bear.
She was a "finished coondog" by the time she was a year old.

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II Chance
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Did You Know

You all know the Yadkin River line
------------Yadkin River Jeff
------Champ
--------------------------* *Bellar's Indiana Shep* *
--------------------SunDown Hank ( Half Brother to semen pup Lumber )
------------------------------Acords Fly Girl Bonney
------------Tar River Jill
----------------------------* *River Bend Flag* *
--------------------Tar River Mindy
-------------------------------River Bend Greasy

Flinn's Hustlin Gypsy (Mother of Ole Sackett)

------Gullet's Dixie Girl

NO WONDER THERE WAS COON DOG BLOOD IS IN THE SACKETT'S
Maybe I should try to find some of that Tar River Stuff!!!!
Lumber x Tar River ???????
I will make a cross of Lumber and a Speciial Female someday. My Blood Line Search continues! I am sure I have Russ Bellar's blessing!!!!

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crowder

I hunt with one of the guys who ran Crowder with Gordon Gilroy all the time. Seems we never go out when I don't hear a story about Crowder.

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Used to hunt alot with a Grand Nite male out of him. To this day probably the best night after night coondog I've ever hunted with and I do not like walker dogs.

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Super track dog

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im get some pups from geoff. Was just wondering what kind of track speed i should have. The female goes back to champ. She is direct from ratatack. How do you think they will do on some running hogs?

Should be a super track dog with lots of nose and heart, hunting ability go Deep enough. The Bellar Indiana Shep style plenty of nose smarts and know what to Do with it and guts to back it up. Remember the Shep and River Bend Flag in Champ was key to this cross! It is How Champ was produce thats why I am intersest in some Champ or Tar River background or River Bend Flag. I am hunting a semen pup of Bellar's Indiana Shep. He is less than two yeras old the best coon killer I ever seen, grabs them behind the front legs and crushes thier lungs and all most lings them apart. This Bellar's Indiana Shep smen pup is a number one coon dog. like to cross him with some Tar River, Yadkin River or River Bend Flag background blood.

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Re: crowder

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I hunt with one of the guys who ran Crowder with Gordon Gilroy all the time. Seems we never go out when I don't hear a story about Crowder.

TIdewataer did you own Tidewater Shep, what was he out of?

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mccracken
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the man that owned gullets dixie girl is still at it not as hard as he use to be but he knows his stuff has his line of the yadkin dogs bred down to a tee..i love sitting around talking with john if ya listen you will learn

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John

Oh yes, I could listen, I am 61.

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Re: crowder

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I hunt with one of the guys who ran Crowder with Gordon Gilroy all the time. Seems we never go out when I don't hear a story about Crowder.
LOL , yeah tell me about it. I wish I could have heard em' They say he was LOUD!

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Yadkin River Tom Tom

I hunted again Tom Tom long ago he beat me good!

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BillyT
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Tidewater sheep was owned by JIM POWERS , never hunted with him, did
Hunted with tw sheps boy top dog . Had it all my brother and I owned four
Dogs out of boy two were top dogs two average dogs i own a grandson now
Colded nosed will make top dog . Biiy T

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Nope, never owned Shep. I hear Crowder was loud...would hurt your ears they say.

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Re: Super track dog

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Should be a super track dog with lots of nose and heart, hunting ability go Deep enought. The Bellar style plenty of nose smarts and know what to Do with it and guts to back it up. Remember the Shep and River Bend Flag in Champ was key to this cross! How is Champ connect I am very intersest in some Champ or Tar River background to River Bend Flag. I am hunting a semen pup of Indiana Shep. He is less than two yeras old the best coon killer I ever seen, grads them behind the front legs and crushes thier lungs and all most lings them apart.
Not exactly sure if you were asking this but I think you were asking how does Y.R. Champ connect to River Bend Flag and if not I appologize.On the bottom side Champs Mamma (Tar River Jill) Jill's mamma ( Tar River Mindy)Mindy's Daddy ( River Bend Flag) Champs Daddy (Yadkin River Jeff)

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Re: Re: crowder

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TIdewataer did you own Tidewater Shep, what was he out of?
Powers Tidewater Shep was out of Powers T.W. Nite Hawk and a Dam called Tisdales Little Lucy

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Re: Re: Super track dog

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Not exactly sure if you were asking this but I think you were asking how does Y.R. Champ connect to River Bend Flag and if not I appologize.On the bottom side Champs Mamma (Tar River Jill) Jill's mamma ( Tar River Mindy)Mindy's Daddy ( River Bend Flag) Champs Daddy (Yadkin River Jeff)

Naw i know this cross by heart. The dog i was tracking is Bellar's indaina Shep a strong reproducer back then. i am hunting a dog off Indiana Shep semen now he will be two in NOV. River Bend Flag a reproducer. and the yadkin river lots of finley river in yadkin river mostly finley river dan.

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get on the Lumber

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Doug , thanks for the story. I hear stories from different people thats hunted behind Ol' Champ and they all say the same thing. He could push a coon in the water as fast as he could on dry ground. Thanks for sharing.

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I hunted with crowder,and a young dog off him may have been jr cant rember,took a gyp up and bred to him,they hunted hard got deep with a coon hard loud tree dog,belly up on the tree,liked crowder and Groden gilroy was a fine man he came down and hunted with us a few times,liked him a lot good freind,also bred same gyp to champ but never hunted him,both crosses turned out with a good persentage making nice dogs,had a dog off yr tom {not tom tom old yr tom} he was off tom and a gyp off yr jeff,old jeff,kyle chase bred him,used to hunt nothing but yr dogs very loud nice all around dogs,1 thing i did see alot of they were either tight on the ground or barked a bunch,had a gyp off champ and peanut think groden bought her at about 4 yrs old,she was LOUD track driving hound that open just right

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