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Richard Lambert
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AO Thursday "Bench Show"

I knew that it was just a matter of time. I just saw the rules for the Thursday "Bench Show" at Autumn Oaks. How can you have a "Bench Show" with no benches?????

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King Richard, have you been in hibernation for the past three years? W'er ya bin?

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Richard Lambert
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I only come out at night now. How long will it be before y'all get rid of the benches altogether?

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Why are you asking so many bench show questions? Can't compete with Roberts in the woods anymore?

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I'm glad. I can't get mine to be still on a bench anyway.

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Richard, in the stud dog class/brood bitch class, if all breeds are represented there is a possiblity of having 28 dogs in the ring... thats a whole lotta benches!

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I think the duals and pairs are benched and the new bred by exhibiter says both on the ground & on the bench . All Thursday and then Fri & Sat is the same as always.
Just looking forward to being there .

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Us too Dale! Soon ..... Very soon.

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now for my dumb ? stud dog, brood bitch thats 2 and it says 3 dogs so what are we showing snice i admit its adumd ? be specific please

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I'll give it a shot but may not have it right.

Stud would be the dog and pups out of that dog as a group

Brood bitch class would be the same only pups out of the female

Bred by exhibter is new this year and sounds similar to all bench shows with the exception of the HANDLER must be the owner of the female at the time of whelping of the dog entered. Have no idea why there is a slight difference for the B & T's.


In the Bred By Exhibitor class, the dogs will be judge on the ground and on the bench. Dogs must be six months of age or older and be UKC registered. The handler must be the breeder of the dog (owner of the dam at the time of whelping/person to whom the litter is registered), but doesn’t have to be the owner of that dog. The classes will be divided by breed and sex. All ages show together. (Ex., B&T Male). All male class winners/female class winners will show for Best Bred By Exhibitor Overall Male/Female. The Best Male and Female will show for Best Overall Bred By Exhibitor Dog.

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Todd, I can't get Roberts in the woods anymore! He is a "show person" now. I will have to start bench showing to compete with him. The last hunt that I went to, there he was showing Cain on the bench. I think that he has made him a Gr Sh Ch now. If I am the co-owner of his mother, can I show Tom Tom in the bred by exhibiter class? What time do you think that this class will be shown?

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quote:
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Have no idea why there is a slight difference for the B & T's.



Dale, I think that "ex" stands for Example not Exception. lol

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Dale, I think that "ex" stands for Example not Exception. lol


Darn, had my glasses on to. Just to hi-tech for an old guy.

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old guy.


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Just a thought :

Would I be wrong to assume that you would need your entries permanent papers to enter the Bred by Exhibitor class since the easy entry card does not have that information on it? It would be a real let down to find out later that even a class winner wasn't eligible and knocked you out of the show.

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Showin' a bunch of ol' hounds sure has gotten complicated. Just sayin'.

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ACHA CHT x3 Broken Roads Little Texas (Kentucky River Rowdy x Houses Lipper's Hope)
CH Broken Roads Southern Stylish Boom (Kentucky River Rowdy x Houses Lipper's Hope)
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Broken Roads IMA Boomer2 (UKC NATL GRCH GRNTCH Honest Abe x Broken Roads Southern Stylish Boom
~~~~~Watch out!~~~~~
They just might make an IMPACT!

and the girls...Punkin and Tater!

Gone by never forgotten ~ Fly high my beautiful angels
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~CH Toucan's Ugly Betty
~ CCH CH Southforks September Rain
~ Martin's Daisy JJ (what a beautiful litter you left behind)
~ Luke, the lab who brought us so many doves and ducks over the years
~ UKC GRCH,ACHA CH 2014 LWCH 2014 2 x's ACHA YOUTH WCH AKC CH AKC CH 'PR' Kentucky River Mundar ~ (Kentucky River Rowdy frozen semen) DNA Profiled ~ Fly high, old friend.

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Dale you don't even need an easy entry card to to enter a regular show anymore, why would you need to prove of being the breeder?

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Dale you don't even need an easy entry card to to enter a regular show anymore, why would you need to prove of being the breeder?


which is a good thing for some people. just saying.......

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Richard, in the stud dog class/brood bitch class, if all breeds are represented there is a possiblity of having 28 dogs in the ring... thats a whole lotta benches!


28 to be exact.

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Dale, I think that "ex" stands for Example not Exception. lol


OMG Dale....THANK YOU! I needed that!!

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Dale you don't even need an easy entry card to to enter a regular show anymore, why would you need to prove of being the breeder?


You do if you don't want to pay extra to enter. Just thought the handler having to be the breeder of record was what that class was all about and that info is on the dogs papers. Honor system works were there is honor but some just don't read the rules.

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OMG Dale....THANK YOU! I needed that!!


Glad I could help.

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You do if you don't want to pay extra to enter. Just thought the handler having to be the breeder of record was what that class was all about and that info is on the dogs papers. Honor system works were there is honor but some just don't read the rules.


Honor....Integrity.....and just plain ole Moral Code! Something many people are LACKING so I have learned.....UKC better check the papers or you will have some try to slip in a dog just to win. After the pic is made they wont care if the win gets taken away from someone deserving.

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but some just don't read the rules.


Some "old guys" read the rules but still don't understand them!

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Some "old guys" read the rules but still don't understand them!


I agree Richard. I'd have to say if was inclined to get into the nite hunts I'd be in sorry shape. Just to many rules and fine points for me to deal with. I've always been able to understand who gets out and finds the coon first did the better job that night but so much of the rest just doesn't interest me. Just to lazy to figure it out I guess. See you at AO's.

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