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I'm not talking about treeing 150bpm and loud as train but seems like a few years ago the guys down the sreet, guy arond the corner , your buddys, anybody and everybody had dogs that COULD tree coons on a regular basis. But now I don't see that , what do you think and why?

I think we have bred to dogs without knowing anything about them except what the owner tells you, when we should bred to the hound down the street , the one we see . JMO

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hunts now days are easier,12 to 15 dogs tops at most hunts around here.normally 3 to 4 registered cast,1 nite cast. if you have even a decent dog you can nite them fairly quick. 15yrs ago there were 30 to sixty dogs and you might win your cast but getting that first place win could sometimes be a pain in the butt! if you granded a dog back then you could say you had a dog!

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I believe old hounds had a lot more of time spent with them these days people have got work and everything else back then u could live off the money u made just killing and selling coon pelts these days if u tryed that ud wind up in a box on the side of the road.... that is if u mean that far back

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i remember when they could all track first and hard to get them too tree, now a days they tree first then track later , i miss the good old track driving SOB from the past JMO

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for the most part the big comp. hunters have bred the nose out.
they want hot nosed dogs.quick track,quick tree dogs to score more points with.turn them loose when season hits here with frost and cold ground.your gonna be doing alot of walking and looking at alot of slick trees.
when leaves are off a accurate coondog will dominate a hot nosed comp dog.
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Its simple. Breed it back and go beat these slick treeing idiots I hear so much about. Should be fairly easy! I wouldn't have the bellering boohooing can't get treed by its self hound of yester year. Wait
I have one that's 9yr old. Does she count as one of the older hounds?

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Now we got the best of the old and new flatrock thrasher x bawling queen!!!!!!! They will show you how to track,locate and blow the top out!!!! You better get you some Charles!!!! Call me

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i remember when they could all track first and hard to get them too tree, now a days they tree first then track later , i miss the good old track driving SOB from the past JMO

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GA Dawg, your 9 yr old don't count lol. i think when they refer to older dogs, its 20 + yrs ago.

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i will stay this, if you tolerate slick trees you will keep walking to them. I agree that cold feeder coons in the winter give some of todays hotter nosed dogs a fit. I went to curs, or hound mix Treeing curs. I hunted hounds for 27 yrs. I could not find a hound that suited me like some of the older dogs did. They just don't have the handle i need on a dog either. I am not saying there is not any out there, i just started going through more dogs than i was hunting so i lookd for something different.

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LOL when I hear of track driving dogs of yesteryear I think of a dog that tries to run old cold tracks that takes 30 mins to an hour to work out. NO THANKS. If I wanted to listen to trailing more then treeing I would pack up rabbits.

As far as slick treeing goes, I have owned 4 walker dogs in the last several years and none of them slick treed often at all. Would they miss every now and then? Sure but they treed way more coon then slick trees. Why would someone hunt a slick treeing dog is beyond me.. If a dog is hunted alone and trained at the right age slick treeing usually doesn't happen near as ofen.

When I hunt I expect to be struck and treed in under 20 to 10 minutes regardless of time of year. Now does that mean it happens every night ? No but I wouldn't trade my old Grand Nite female or my female now for anything.

And I don't know how it is around you but most the competition hunters around me are pretty serious about coon hunting and few of them bring a dog that can't tree a coon.

I guess if your not satisfied with what ya got now go try something else. There's alot of dogs out there.

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if you get treed in 20 down here in south ga you either hunting feeders or turning them loose in front of the dogs lol. coon get in some of these swamp marshes and you got a race on your hands.

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i have dog that i think could smell a coon from 2 weeks before havent comp hunted him yet but when we go on pleasure hunts he is the first one to strike but then he trees sec. had a lot of people tell me that he reminds them of the old b&t they said he would really shine against the comp dogs during the winter

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if you get treed in 20 down here in south ga you either hunting feeders or turning them loose in front of the dogs lol. coon get in some of these swamp marshes and you got a race on your hands.

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I haven't been around to have hunted 20 years ago so I don't know what those dogs were like but my papaw has hunted since the 50's and he honestly says he likes today's dogs better than most of the old dogs. He had a few really good ones and a few he would give anything to have back but he said back then you would have to go through 10, 15 or more pups to find one that would tree and that was with most of them being out of advertised studs.

And for those complaining about track, there is more than enough track out there in the walker breed and the redbone breed I know from experience. You just have to know where to look.

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well ga dog, i guess your dogs are just better than ours. what state land you hunt down here

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Chickasahatchee(sp) wma. Olcmulgee. Horse creek. Maybe you are further east. Ive not hunted no marshes. I guess you saying south ga. It covers a large area with some different coon populations but everywhere I've hunted in south ga has been loaded with coon. That's why we go there so much.

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Is it the way we hunt them . EXAMPLES: frosty nights, around water, make them have to go look for one instead of quickys, and to me what I think what makes a great one ..HUNTING IT BY IT
SELF , Which I believe is lacking in todays hounds. Way to many one trees look out they all treed....with nothing


Sometimes I think a cold noses is earned or made in the type of conditions you hunt your hound {jmo)

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Now we got the best of the old and new flatrock thrasher x bawling queen!!!!!!! They will show you how to track,locate and blow the top out!!!! You better get you some Charles!!!! Call me

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Call me later tonight , hope you feel better . I got in at 4 this morning from hunting. I'll be up till about 4 again tonight

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Is it the way we hunt them . EXAMPLES: frosty nights, around water, make them have to go look for one instead of quickys, and to me what I think what makes a great one ..HUNTING IT BY IT
SELF , Which I believe is lacking in todays hounds. Way to many one trees look out they all treed....with nothing


Sometimes I think a cold noses is earned or made in the type of conditions you hunt your hound {jmo)

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I don't know where you hunt but around here they always have to go look for one anywhere, anytime you turn them loose. No easy coon around here.

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Is it the way we hunt them . EXAMPLES: frosty nights, around water, make them have to go look for one instead of quickys, and to me what I think what makes a great one ..HUNTING IT BY IT
SELF , Which I believe is lacking in todays hounds. Way to many one trees look out they all treed....with nothing


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yeah we go to chick a saw some lol. they have good coon numbers. down around lake seminole, silver lake etc, they there just run hard in the swamps

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Todays dogs are by far a lot better than the older dogs in the 70's. Everybody says todays dogs are slick treeing dogs that can't run a track. It all depends who is at the end of the leash, on both ends I mean. I remember the three hour hunts, they could not score near as much as we do now. When I look in the mirror I see the only guy I like to beat and than get better. Experience Hunting hard, and knowing your dog and you will better your BREED. So without a doubt todays dogs are a lot better hound than yesterdays hounds. Thats why I read COON HOUND BLOODLINES.

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i liked the dogs of 60s and 70s way better than the dogs of today they started hunting when you turn them loose todays dogs when you cut them loose they throw dirt in your face and go out of the country looking for a coon track then find them miles away treed maybe have a coon and maybe not i just think they have bred to much tree in todays dogs i think it is really bad in todays walker dogs jmo

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