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I was reading another post about training pens and the cost. I understand why some folks use them because of work or health issues but it drives the cost of a young dog thru the roof.

I will say I have never personally started a young dog successfully. I can finish one but start them.

So a pup costs $200 - $500
Training pens run $150 - $350 per month
gas to training pen $100 - $200

So a guy says he had a pup at a pen for three months thats $750 - $1750 in a started pup. I would bet a person could find a pup thats well started for what you will have in a lightly started pup.

JMO but thought I might se what everyone else thought about this issue

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I run a pen in Sc and it does cost to put one in a pen. Think on the other hand. I speaking of my pen and not for others; I will not keep a pup much over a month because I mess with my pups everyday. If they havent started in that time in most cases that pup will never please you.
pup 150 to 500
pen 250
gas 100 to 200
range 500 to 1000

Starting a pup at home going to the woods everynight for 30 days , bucket , setting traps, feeding the hound, many hours from home, finding hot coons with no worries of running trash

gas 20x30 500
buckets 10 to 20 per bucket
gas, bait 10 to 20 per trap
dog food 20 to 40
hours from home priceless
hot coons no trash priceless

figuered on 5 bucket setting five traps

500
50 to 100
50 to 100
20 to 40
priceless
priceless

650 to 750 not counting what it is worth to you on the other two

This is just my input I have many happy people saying this is the way to go I can put more training time on a dog in a pen than the average person can do in the wild in three months

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I agree with Austin. He and his partner worked a dog in their pen for me for two weeks...with my work schedule and such I wouldn't have got that much training done on my own in four. Now the drive down there was a little costly considering gas mileage in my big ole' truck, but I would have spent more driving to enough places to put her on coon. As long as the price is reasonable and the folks running the pen are doing you right, I think it's a good investment. I'll certainly do it again.

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Austin is right. Figure up how much it will cost you to start that same pup. You may have less money in him/her if you go the puppy pen route. And it may take you 3-4 times as long. Do you really think that someone will sell you a "started" pup that they like? Most of the time a "started" pup is sold because the "starter" sees something that they don't like. I mean ask yourself, "Why would someone sell a good started pup that they have $1500 in for $800"? Someone once said, "If it sounds too good to be true then it probably isn't." If you have more money than time, then a puppy pen may be the way to go. If you have more time than money, then you can do it yourself. Do you take your car to a mechanic when it tears up or do you fix it yourself? Sometimes fixing it yourself is the way to go but sometimes it ends up costing you more to fix it yourself.

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I can start most pups without a pen. My problem is finishing them. I loose intrest in most of them. I have a young dog now that needs finishing. She hunts alone. Trees coon alone. Needs about 30 or 40 days of straight hunting time. Needs a few coon on her. Shed make a good un. Its just to hot to hunt one here that hard right now

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I can start most pups without a pen. My problem is finishing them. I loose intrest in most of them. I have a young dog now that needs finishing. She hunts alone. Trees coon alone. Needs about 30 or 40 days of straight hunting time. Needs a few coon on her. Shed make a good un. Its just to hot to hunt one here that hard right now

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Just heard of a pen in North Ga. It is news to me do any of you guys know anything about one around Chatsworth?. H L Meyer

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Tell me about it. If its not the one Im in. I'll try and find out about it.

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if a man charged you $750 a month and hunted a pup right. Then after food, gas and time spent on your pup he isn't even making minimum wage. You think it isn't worth it I think it isn't worth the man that's doing its time.


You are way ahead on money and time to just spend $1500 to $2000 on a started pup. The money on raising one isn't near as big of a deal as the time spent you can never get that time back and you find out by 15 months old that you have a dud.

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I sent one to one of these small enclosed training pens once. He did as he said. Got pup to treeing. I will never send another. To me that's some of the funnest times hunting. Getting that young hound treeing.

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Which one U In. The one I heard about was in Chatsworth.

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One Im in is talking rock. Aint real far from chatsworth. I've just not heard of it I guess.

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WOULD BE A LOT CLOSER THAN CHATSWORTH. NEED INFO

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Its cheaper to buy a started dog than a training pen

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It is cheaper to buy a started dog but the reason they are for sale most the time is cause there is something there they dont like about that hound. As for as training pens go they are good for people that dont have the time to start one and some that do have the time get burned out before the pup get started good. Some of the best times you will ever have hunting is training a pup cause there is nothing like hearing your hound come up on the tree for the first time and rolling Mr Fuzzy tail out, but if you cant hunt a dog aready treeing coons for thirty days straight how can you start a pup cause you cant carry him once this week then fri and sat the next week then skip a few weeks. It all boils down to opinions and for people that cant get out and hunt every night and for some that just dont know how to get one started.

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Their is nothing wrong with starting pens. They are good for people that have the money to spend, lack knowledge or are to busy to get a pup started. The people that are to busy to put a dog in the woods will never have a coon dog. If a person doesn't have time to train one, how is that person going to keep a started dog going?

You can buy many young dogs that have been started this way and may not have any major faults. The owners are the problems the majority of the time. Once they are started you have to hunt them to keep them going. JMO

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if you havent put $1000 to $1500 in a pup you havent done enough with it to really truely know what you have... pen or your own time

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There we go glad others see it that same way I do. I have trained dogs for some and I call them months later and ask about the pup and they havent messed with him. The pup has to continue to be worked after it leaves

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