Registered: Jun 2008
Location:
Posts: 22

There is a bill HF257 being pushed right now. This would reduce the size of conibears on land to 5 inches. I know alot of dog hunters would like to see this pass so I thought I'd put it on here. I don't normally get involved but I've seen a dog killed this way and it doesn't need to happen. A good trapper will do just as well with footholds.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Nov 2010
Location: iowa
Posts: 13

love it. Does our lobbyist for the IA State Coonhunters know about this?

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jul 2010
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 57

In Nebraska a 330 needs to be at least 6 ft off the ground or fully sumerged. Im takeing it that they want the 220's the same way.
So, only 110's for a ground set?

__________________
Craig Fisher

PR Iron Mountain June Bug
PR Iron Mountain Daisy May
PR Iron Mountain Blue Scout

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Oct 2007
Location: Iowa
Posts: 463

I hope it passes. I had a dog get caught in one. Those 500 coon a year bucket trappers will need to learn how to trap.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jun 2003
Location: The Hawkeye State
Posts: 1317

If the coon hunters get behind this and push hard to pass it, what will the trappers want to take form us??? Our training season?? Dogs in the pen from the first of Feb,to the first of November....

__________________
B&B's Black and Tans

PR B and B's Smokin' Willie


"PR"B and B's Coon Doctor
( Gr.Nite Ch.Bee Creek Dr.Max xGr.Nite Ch. Moonshine Maggie)

Past Home of:

Nite Ch. "PR"B and B's Smokin' Misty (2007-2018)

Nite Ch B&B's Black Hoss (1992-2003)

Nite Ch.Gr.Ch. Shaker Hill Mr. Grubbs (2003-2011)

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Dec 2009
Location: central
Posts: 93

You know I agree with Billy on this!!!!!!!!!

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Los Angeles, MN
Posts: 4236

I understand what Billy is thinking maybe hes right maybe not.

We had no season on coon for years and years, the Trappers got one put back on us for no reason 2 years ago.

If I had a chance to get rid of 220's Id take it, You may have a knife in your back tomorrow either way.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Aug 2006
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 523

As far as i see it, if the coon hunters start conflict with the trappers then that just gives more fuel to the anti's to use to try and shut us all down!JMO. I wouldn't want one of our dogs to get stuck in a steel necklace eather but i could easily see pushing this issue to much could come back to bite ya in the A$$. again just my opinion

__________________
Treein' Blu's

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jul 2009
Location: pa
Posts: 16

I hope it doesn't pass. A 220 used in the right places is a very effective trap that shouldn't harm dogs. A 5x5 does nothing to coon. U can't have them all to yourself

__________________
Home of SleepyHollow Blueticks

NtCh SleepyHollow Blue Cassidy

NtCh SleepyHollow Bluetack II

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Not Yet
Location:
Posts: N/A

From what I can tell, some of these other outdoor groups don't hesitate to pass a regulation that will negatively effect a houndsmen or hunting dog enthusiast. Most the time they don't even put any thought into it, if it is good for them they go for it.
I don't see why this should be any different. If we had a chance to eliminate or further regulate conibears, I'd jump on that bandwagon in a hurry and get as many friends to come along as possible.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jul 2009
Location: pa
Posts: 16

quote:

---

Originally posted by brogy
From what I can tell, some of these other outdoor groups don't hesitate to pass a regulation that will negatively effect a houndsmen or hunting dog enthusiast. Most the time they don't even put any thought into it, if it is good for them they go for it.
I don't see why this should be any different. If we had a chance to eliminate or further regulate conibears, I'd jump on that bandwagon in a hurry and get as many friends to come along as possible.

---

__________________
Home of SleepyHollow Blueticks

NtCh SleepyHollow Blue Cassidy

NtCh SleepyHollow Bluetack II

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Aug 2006
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 523

quote:

---

Originally posted by brogy
From what I can tell, some of these other outdoor groups don't hesitate to pass a regulation that will negatively effect a houndsmen or hunting dog enthusiast. Most the time they don't even put any thought into it, if it is good for them they go for it.
I don't see why this should be any different. If we had a chance to eliminate or further regulate conibears, I'd jump on that bandwagon in a hurry and get as many friends to come along as possible.

---

__________________
Treein' Blu's

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Not Yet
Location:
Posts: N/A

quote:

---

Originally posted by slpyhlwblues
Good for you! I guess this is why sportsmen will be a dyeing breed some day

---

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Sep 2010
Location: Tekamah,Neb.
Posts: 1196

you guys stickin up for the trappers on the conibear issue have never had to face a call from your 16 year old little brother in the middle of the night,bawlin hysterically,cause he had to sit and watch his big brothers best dog that he borrowed die in a conibear cause he couldn't figure out how to get it off fast enough.Might make you have a little different feeling about conibears.

__________________
your either making dust or your eating it
Travis Stirek
425-530-6649
http://stirekcanineservices.weebly.com

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Not Yet
Location:
Posts: N/A

quote:

---

Originally posted by B Downing
The way i see it Marc is that some one has to end the pissing match between the coon hunters and the trappers. if it keeps going like it is with the trappers and the coon hunters keep wantin to take away or regulate each others sport more and more all the time, pretty soon we aren't going to have any thing left to evjoy. Instead of the different outdoor groups pissing and moaning about each others sport i think we need to stick together
a little bit more or we are all gunna loose what we love to do. And its not just the fight between the coon hunters and the trappers it going on with the deer hunter, the bear hunters, etc., etc, etc! I just think it has to come to an end soon or the dnr is gunna have so many regulations on us that it isn't gunna be fun for any of us to be in the woods, unless ya wana take up bird watchin? Again JMO, everyone's got one

---

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Aug 2006
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 523

quote:

---

Originally posted by StrawberryMt
you guys stickin up for the trappers on the conibear issue have never had to face a call from your 16 year old little brother in the middle of the night,bawlin hysterically,cause he had to sit and watch his big brothers best dog that he borrowed die in a conibear cause he couldn't figure out how to get it off fast enough.Might make you have a little different feeling about conibears.

---

__________________
Treein' Blu's

Last edited by B Downing on 02-14-2011 at 05:10 AM

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Not Yet
Location:
Posts: N/A

You ever see the trappers or trophy deer hunters saying how we as sportsmen need to work together to preserve our futures?

Its like a group of high school bullies picking on the kindergartners. They don't care. If you're the kindergartner you can continue to give them your lunch and hope they'll stop beating on you, but that doesn't mean they're going to respect you.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Not Yet
Location:
Posts: N/A

quote:

---

Originally posted by B Downing
I'm not syaing that i am really for or against this issue. all i am saying is what is gunna happen if this law gets passed what else are the coon hunters gunna try to get. I enjoy both huntin' with hounds and trapping. I just don't want to see for my children and their children to not be able to enjoy the things that i love to do. If all sportsmen/women could find a happy medium and not keep trying to run each other out of the woods, our favorite past times will be around for the next generaitions to enjoy.

---

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jul 2009
Location: pa
Posts: 16

Why not push for 160's in trail sets? To reduce a trapper to a 5x5 would be like taking our hounds away from us

__________________
Home of SleepyHollow Blueticks

NtCh SleepyHollow Blue Cassidy

NtCh SleepyHollow Bluetack II

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Los Angeles, MN
Posts: 4236

quote:

---

Originally posted by StrawberryMt
you guys stickin up for the trappers on the conibear issue have never had to face a call from your 16 year old little brother in the middle of the night,bawlin hysterically,cause he had to sit and watch his big brothers best dog that he borrowed die in a conibear cause he couldn't figure out how to get it off fast enough.Might make you have a little different feeling about conibears.

---

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Sep 2010
Location: Tekamah,Neb.
Posts: 1196

If my grandkids never knew what a conibear was it would make me very happy.Brogy you are the man.Trappers as a whole could give a hoot about us and the feeling is mutual from me.We as houndsmen have to start lookin out for #1 and that doesn't mean kissing up to the other outdoor groups that never kiss with their lips.

__________________
your either making dust or your eating it
Travis Stirek
425-530-6649
http://stirekcanineservices.weebly.com

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Not Yet
Location:
Posts: N/A

quote:

---

Originally posted by slpyhlwblues
Why not push for 160's in trail sets? To reduce a trapper to a 5x5 would be like taking our hounds away from us

---

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jul 2008
Location: Eastern IA
Posts: 239

it makes me cringe when i hear guys talk about making 220 bucket sets but it will be a cold day in he11 before i throw in with animal rights activest against any fellow outdoorsmen.you guys sound like democrats.

__________________
Jason Brown

Last edited by tripple river on 02-14-2011 at 06:49 AM

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jan 2006
Location:
Posts: 139

Brogy, 220's are used more than you think. Look at some of your state trapper boards. The fisher trappers are using them in pole sets.
Look at NY trapping regs. New conibear laws came into effect a few years ago. The trappers pursued it and worked with the houndsmen on it.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Mar 2009
Location: OKLA
Posts: 1132

In my state conibears are only legal in water sets; but that doesn't keep trappers from making illegal sets. If you want to see this bill pass; just circulate a picture of a dog, caught in a conibear to your legislators. Tom

__________________
Home of:
NTCH Honky Tonk Joe
GRNTCH The Duke
Dual GRNTCH Wendy
GRNTCH Cola
GrNtCH Honky Tonk Rock and Roll
Dual GRCH Bumper
Dual CH June
Dual CH Jill

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged