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dog getting hot?

i have a dog that seems to get over heated in the summer.when he gets treed he will locate & tree for a little bit then he will shut down &only bark every couple minutes.last year i fed enhanced dog food.i also ran him on the tread mill 3 times a week for 30 min & hunted him 5 to 6 nights a week.i also gave him a fish oil pill every day.this year im feeding native level 4 & plan to hunt him only 2 or 3 days a week.anny suggestions would be greatly appreaciated.its hard to win in the summer with a dog that dont bark every 2 minutes on the tree.

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try an electrolyte replacer when hunting mixes in with there water, important to keep them properly hydrated when hunting hard even in winter.

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High protein content in their foods can cause this.

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High protein content in their foods can cause this.
Folks on here claim it dont but I've saw it myself..Had one last year and thought she was gonna fall out one night..Swapped her food to a lower protein food and a week later she was good to go.

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Put the dog on k9 super fuel,I have a male that will get hot in the summer,he's an extremely hard tree dog,he won't quit but I worry and try to keep up on him but before super fuel after20 min of treeing he looked wore out and would stand in a creek and drink seems like five gallon a of water at a time.started him on super fuel and he can tree45 min plus and when you take him off he is still pulling and take him to water and he mite lap up a couple mouthfuls and he pulling to go again.bottom line with super fuel you will see a huge difference.between that and the native your feeding he should be a lot cooler.just try to stay with your dogs better in the heat cause if they overheat one time good if they live through there never the same .you can also keep some alcohol wipes in your pocket and int. Wipe down his,her inner ears as that also helps dissipate heat.sometimes you just have to weigh out if it's worth it to hunt them at all.jmo when it gets real hot and humid I try to wait until after midnite to cut loose

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check the protein in your dog food if too much this will burn a hound up in the heat also get him checked for heart worm this is sign's of them

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High protein content in their foods can cause this.


Bad protein not high protein. And I don't care what you do, dogs will run hot..... period, full stop, end of story, no way to avoid it. They aren't machines. The only thing we can do as owners is to minimize their recovery and beat the competition that way. Let them stay gassed, get yours back to hunting hard. "Properly hydrated" does not mean all the water he can drink either. That is over hydrated and this too will not only make a dog run hot faster, but keep him hotter, longer. Just words of advice.

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check the protein in your dog food if too much this will burn a hound up in the heat also get him checked for heart worm this is sign's of them


Bullshyt flag, bullshyt flag!!!!! Wives tails, gotta love them. Bad protein will burn your dog up. Good protein, feed them all you can get.

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i was just voicing my though to much protein will burn a hound up plan and simple year ago a lexington race horse specialest did a study on a protein called re-cell that they added to horse feed adding to much of this in the summer month's was causing the horse's to over heat

and no i use to handle a hound afew year's back he would tree so hard he would pass out at the tree in the summer time come to find out the dog had heart worm's and

by the way it's not (wife's tale's) it's wise tale'sdffngqh1bbv

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i was just voicing my though to much protein will burn a hound up plan and simple year ago a lexington race horse specialest did a study on a protein called re-cell that they added to horse feed adding to much of this in the summer month's was causing the horse's to over heat

and no i use to handle a hound afew year's back he would tree so hard he would pass out at the tree in the summer time come to find out the dog had heart worm's and

by the way it's not (wife's tale's) it's wise tale'sdffngqh1bbv

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i was just voicing my though to much protein will burn a hound up plan and simple year ago a lexington race horse specialest did a study on a protein called re-cell that they added to horse feed adding to much of this in the summer month's was causing the horse's to over heat

and no i use to handle a hound afew year's back he would tree so hard he would pass out at the tree in the summer time come to find out the dog had heart worm's and

by the way it's not (wife's tale's) it's wise tale'sdffngqh1bbv

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I feel it does not matter good or bad hi proteins are not to be over done in the summer months. Yes, I prefer a good meat based formula over a grain based formula.

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Bad protein not high protein. And I don't care what you do, dogs will run hot..... period, full stop, end of story, no way to avoid it. They aren't machines. The only thing we can do as owners is to minimize their recovery and beat the competition that way. Let them stay gassed, get yours back to hunting hard. "Properly hydrated" does not mean all the water he can drink either. That is over hydrated and this too will not only make a dog run hot faster, but keep him hotter, longer. Just words of advice.


what causes hot spots?why do you thank tsc has your brand
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i was just voicing my though to much protein will burn a hound up plan and simple year ago a lexington race horse specialest did a study on a protein called re-cell that they added to horse feed adding to much of this in the summer month's was causing the horse's to over heat

and no i use to handle a hound afew year's back he would tree so hard he would pass out at the tree in the summer time come to find out the dog had heart worm's and

by the way it's not (wife's tale's) it's wise tale'sdffngqh1bbv



Red cell, was never a fan of it. Yes, it will aid in helping a dog heat up. Thats the downside. Casual use its fine. If one uses it for a performance supplement, they may do more harm than good.

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I am sure it has nothing to do with kidneys that are taxed to the max from trying to process protein that they weren't designed to do. Look, I don't care if you hunt a dog in the summer or winter. If you are pushing him physically, he NEEDS protein. Along with protein comes fat, provided your protein isn't coming from grains. Fat is needed as the primary energy source for dogs. When you reduce protein, fat is also reduced which ultimately leads you to reduce his energy source. Hence you will have a dog that runs hot. It is the synergistic effect, not the singular blame of protein. If you opt for protein that is grain/vegetable based(cheaper feeds), this will also increase his carbohydrate intake. When you increase the carbs, he will increase his water consumption as his cells will store excess water because of the carbs. A dog that is carrying way more water than necessary=a dog that quickly heats up and stays heated up. A larger volume of water takes more time to cool than a smaller volume of water. Again, just some advice, take it for what its worth.

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Blame the feed for everything. All dogs are different! Good protien/bad protien thats just silly! What regulates the intake of protien in any animal is how fast or slow it goes through them. The more time a body has to digest the food will be the deciding factor! Overheating on a certain dog food is a very common. The best thing you can do is go to your vet and have a thyroid test done. I would bet your dog has a slow tyroid! If this is the case you may have to feed something more to the dogs needs or just suppliments to your current feed. Hope this helps....

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i dont know how bad ticks are in iowa. take him to your vet & have a test for erlicia (check spelling) i'v got 2 that have this. they will get hot & burn up when they get treed or excited.

some dogs you just have to keep on a low fat low protein diet & keep them thin in summer.

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i forgot to mention that i took him to the vet last year & had a thorough exam done & they could find nothing.yhe vet said there was much more testing he could do but he thaught he tested for everything that would likely be the cause.at this time my dog was just a little under weight because i thaught this would help him run cooler.the vet told me to put weight back on him & feed good dog food.i believe with this dog the problem is genetic & also my fault. but would still like to know what i can do to make it less of a problem.thanks everyone for your input you have already saved me from taking a step in the wrong direction from what i read on here about the red cell.

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i have a dog that seems to get over heated in the summer.when he gets treed he will locate & tree for a little bit then he will shut down &only bark every couple minutes.last year i fed enhanced dog food.i also ran him on the tread mill 3 times a week for 30 min & hunted him 5 to 6 nights a week.i also gave him a fish oil pill every day.this year im feeding native level 4 & plan to hunt him only 2 or 3 days a week.anny suggestions would be greatly appreaciated.its hard to win in the summer with a dog that dont bark every 2 minutes on the tree.


I would also advise resting him. If you are hunting 5-6 nights a week and 30 minutes on the treadmill, he is getting no rest at all and staying burnt out. I know guys talk alot on here about how they hunt every night blah, blah, blah. I think its more of a show of their "manhood" than anything else. Rest is always overlooked. If you feed and water for performance and use a work/rest schedule both during the week, and during "hunt" time, you can really dial a dog in so that over heating is negated and the dog will handle it with ease. Dogs over heat, period. Every last one of them. If someone says theirs doesn't, don't believe it. It is more of a case of them not recognizing it. There are many, many factors that play a part in how a dog performs. Knowing what they are and how to maximize every one of them will allow you to put forth an overall better package night after night. Dogs will over heat from more than just feed. A trip to the vet for blood work will tell alot. At the very least you can verify that there isn't any internal bacterial or viral issues that exist. Once you do that, the rest is upto you.

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Likes done been said protein is not the problem I feed 35/25 year round and still will supplement that

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I had a friend had a dog that started doing that and after. Testing from a vet it was found that he had an enlarged heart and arterys which caused him to barely tree at all .

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i have a dog that seems to get over heated in the summer.when he gets treed he will locate & tree for a little bit then he will shut down &only bark every couple minutes.last year i fed enhanced dog food.i also ran him on the tread mill 3 times a week for 30 min & hunted him 5 to 6 nights a week.i also gave him a fish oil pill every day.this year im feeding native level 4 & plan to hunt him only 2 or 3 days a week.anny suggestions would be greatly appreaciated.its hard to win in the summer with a dog that dont bark every 2 minutes on the tree.

Make sure your feed is meat based and make sure your feed is Soy free....Most people do not know that Soy will cause hot spots and over heating... You can also give him Childrens pedialyte as an electrolyte replacer.. Hope this helps..

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I had that problem with my dog and I switched him to chicken and rice dog food and it really made a big difference. It's a different kind of protien than what's in regular dog food and they don't seem to get as hot on it. I think all the corn and stuff in regular dog food causes them to run hotter.

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