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A lot of people have the idea that slick treeing is a tree problem, when actually it is a track problem.

A dog that trees wrong either loses the track, doesn't want to track, or doesn't know how to finish the track, so they grab a tree.

An accurate tree dog is one with the ability to finish a track, good or bad, to the final destination, and that's where the track stops. That's also where you will find your quarry.

I know some think it's all about tree, but I don't care how many times a dog barks, or how loud and intense it is, it just doesn't do a thing for me if it is wrong.

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Accurate tree dogs are bred, not trained. I have had in the past and currently own now, dogs that refuse a slick tree even when the other dogs slam one.

This is a good time of the year to correct a slick tree dog. Give him the switch on a slick tree, give the meat when he has it. Cull one that can't learn the difference quickly.

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Accurate tree dogs are bred, not trained. I have had in the past and currently own now, dogs that refuse a slick tree even when the other dogs slam one.

This is a good time of the year to correct a slick tree dog. Give him the switch on a slick tree, give the meat when he has it. Cull one that can't learn the difference quickly.

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I was just thinking the same thing.

1st paragraph: accuracy bred, not trained.

2nd paragraph: use this time of year to whip accuracy into them.


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He was blowing up his as usual and telling the rest of us how to do things.lol

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IT IS WHAT ITS ALWAYS BEEN----UNFINISHED TRACK

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couldnt it be a backtracking problem

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Very true, Craig. We all know you have a problem with neither of which but the fact remains the same, lol.

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couldnt it be a backtracking problem

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IT IS WHAT ITS ALWAYS BEEN----UNFINISHED TRACK

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i dont know a lot but u cant train a dog to be accurate its bred in to them ..................... think god for a walker line called wipeout!!!!!!!!!

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If slick treeing is the lack of tracking ability.........

How can proper training improve the accuracy of many dogs?

You can beat me as much as you want, when your done I gaurantee I wont have a better sense of smell.

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I think a dog with all the right tools can be ruined by poor handling, and poor training.

I agree that nose n trailing is bred into a hound, but like any God given talent, it must be developed. You can't instill it in a dog, but you can guide them in the right direction.

To give a couple of examples: If you hunt a dog with "Idiots" it will affect them. Dogs are subject to influence just like people. You can put a flu patient in a room full of well people, and all of those well people won't make the sick person well. The sick person can pontentially make everybody sick.

Another example: Hunting a dog on feeder buckets can affect a dog's tracking ability. If a hound is constantly put on hot tracks, or pop ups ( I know it doesn't always work out that way, but alot of times it does) the dog doesn't get the chance to develope it's natural abilities. As a matter of fact, they learn to expect a quickie, and if it's not, they are totally59 out of their comfort zone.

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I think a dog with all the right tools can be ruined by poor handling, and poor training.

I agree that nose n trailing is bred into a hound, but like any God given talent, it must be developed. You can't instill it in a dog, but you can guide them in the right direction.

To give a couple of examples: If you hunt a dog with "Idiots" it will affect them. Dogs are subject to influence just like people. You can put a flu patient in a room full of well people, and all of those well people won't make the sick person well. The sick person can pontentially make everybody sick.

Another example: Hunting a dog on feeder buckets can affect a dog's tracking ability. If a hound is constantly put on hot tracks, or pop ups ( I know it doesn't always work out that way, but alot of times it does) the dog doesn't get the chance to develope it's natural abilities. As a matter of fact, they learn to expect a quickie, and if it's not, they are totally59 out of their comfort zone.

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My 13 month female runs the track great but she doesn't stay on the tree. She will tree until I get close then she comes to me and when I tell her to get back on the tree she will carry the track back or she will go strike another track and do the same thing all over again. I saw her treed last night across the field, went to her, she came off and went and back tracked it. I saw the coon that was treed by the field. Why isn't she staying?

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i dont know about all that ive seen dogs go threw times where they would tree slick but get over it and they were great track dogs i dont mind a dog missing every once in awhile i like them to be quick tree dogs ive seen some blue dogs that couldnt track that wouldnt slick tree i would rather have them pull slick than to haft to listen to some try to run a coon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I don't claim to have all of the answers. I'm not sure about the questions.

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I don't want a dog that will just run in and slam a tree. I like a dog to be fast and not to slow to grab a tree but if he ain't got a coon he ain't accomplised anything. I believe 90% of circle trees are slick. JMO.

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Accurate tree dogs are bred, not trained. I have had in the past and currently own now, dogs that refuse a slick tree even when the other dogs slam one.

This is a good time of the year to correct a slick tree dog. Give him the switch on a slick tree, give the meat when he has it. Cull one that can't learn the difference quickly.

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Littermates can be exact opposites, just depends what ancester the puppy takes after.One pup can be silent, and another can be too open, same with slick treeing!

Accuracy is a bred in trait, a lot of times the trainer can hurt a pup that starts out to be accurate,then the stud dog gets the blame for poor training.Not always but it can happen.You have to hunt the puppy rite,and not always with a dog you don`t like.If you don`t have a dog you like, you are better off hunting the pup by their self.JMO!

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