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Jimmy T
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Registered: Apr 2010
Location: Friendsville,TN
Posts: 22

Dog Recovery on private land

We was running our dogs during bear dog training here in Tennessee,dogs left our area ,when we located dogs they were treeing 778 yards up a drive way leeding to a house.The land owner met us as we were starting up the driveway,he told us it was private property and was calling the law,they came and told us we could not go up there.We stayed for several hours,dogs did not leave,had too work next day so we came back,dogs were scattered took till wednesday too recover all 4 dogs.This could have been avoided if we were allowed to go that first day.My question is does anyone no the laws in Tennessee concerning this problem and I also forgot to mention NO signs were posted not 1.

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lmt renegade
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Registered: Aug 2007
Location: tenn
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you have the right to recover your dogs you should have called your twra officer to help you also may want to more research online and print off laws of recovery and keep with you most local cops dont know or dont care

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NH_walker001
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Registered: Mar 2009
Location: New Hampshire
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dogs

i would get a copy of the law then make a complaint.. locsl officers should know laws or get a new job thats total bogus... you must have the right to retrieve the dogs.

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DHARVEY
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Registered: May 2010
Location: bridgeport,wv
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not good

sorry to hear of this horrible event, you have every right to retrieve your hounds.... i would deffinately pursue that cop and if there was anything wrong with my hounds when i got them back, he would have some vet bills to get taken care of.....

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Dan Atkins
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When you call the after hours number for TWRA on an issue like this it's a real pain. Just call the county police and tell them your fixing to have a problem and that you need an officer. Once he gets there he MIGHT be able to convince the land owner to let you retrieve your dogs. If not HE can get the process of a warden on the scene ALOT quicker.

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psiskjr
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Registered: Feb 2010
Location: Perry, Fl.
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Better check your state and local laws. Not all states have a right to retrieve. Florida doesnt. It sucks.

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rich40s
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Registered: Aug 2008
Location: maine
Posts: 208

getting dogs

in maine we cant so the warden tells me to just call him and he will come get them rich

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Outlaw 3
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Registered: Aug 2008
Location: Southeast TN
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You have a right to retrieve. You are supposed to notify the land owner that you are going to be on their property, ask for permission, and if they refuse you call the law on them and have them escort you to retrieve your hounds. It would be helpful to have a copy of the law printed out to show the landowner. To the best of my knowledge this is the current law.

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Tracey Jones
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Registered: Jan 2005
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I have searched high and low for the written law that says you can get your dogs on private property in TN. I have not found such a law in writing. If someone can find it I would love to see such a law.

We had a horrible situation here recently were bear dogs were killed on private property and it took about 4 days and lots of trouble to get the authorities to do much about it.

Here is what can work if necessary:

Obviously you must be truthful, so within the law consider this.....

1. Call the Sheriff's Dept (not the TWRA) and report your dogs stolen. Also report their tracking collars stolen. Don't call in and report them "lost", report them as stolen, which they are if a land owner retains them on his property.

2. After they are reported stolen and a report is filed in writing then call back and report that you have located your stolen property (via tracking equipment) at a particular address.


Its a lot of trouble but this strategy allows for your "stolen property" to be recovered.

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stevehurd
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Registered: Dec 2009
Location: NH
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In NH do we have the right to retrieve the dogs?

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rich40s
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Registered: Aug 2008
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posted land

if land is posted u have no right going on it if u do its trespassing and u can be fined thats why you got to call a warden to go in there with you to get your dogs back if land ower comes out just ask them if they dont let u call the warden

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GutEmNH
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Registered: Jan 2010
Location: Charlestown, NH
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Re: posted land

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if land is posted u have no right going on it if u do its trespassing and u can be fined thats why you got to call a warden to go in there with you to get your dogs back if land ower comes out just ask them if they dont let u call the warden
It is the same in NH.

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Outlaw 3
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Registered: Aug 2008
Location: Southeast TN
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Here is all I could find so far on the laws. This does not say you have a right to retrieve but it does say that you are not in any violation if your dog is on anothers property. Tracey Jones is right. You call the police not the game wardens and report the dog stolen if they refuse to let you retrieve.

§ 44-8-408. Dogs

(a) As used in this section, unless the context otherwise requires, "owner" means a person who, at the time of the offense, regularly harbors, keeps or exercises control over the dog, but does not include a person who, at the time of the offense, is temporarily harboring, keeping or exercising control over the dog.

(b) The owner of a dog commits an offense if that dog goes uncontrolled by the owner upon the premises of another without the consent of the owner of the premises or other person authorized to give consent, or goes uncontrolled by the owner upon a highway, public road, street or any other place open to the public generally.

(c) It is an exception to the application of this section that:

(1) The dog was on a hunt or chase;

(2) The dog was on the way to or from a hunt or chase

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Outlaw 3
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Here is the right to retrieve for government land.

§ 44-17-402. Admission of hunters onto property owned by wildlife resources agency; search for lost dogs

If the owner or a person in control of a dog is hunting with either a firearm or a bow and arrow, and such person's dog strays onto property owned by the federal government and operated by the Tennessee wildlife resources agency, such owner or person may proceed onto such property without the person's firearm or bow and arrow. Such person shall not be liable for any criminal sanction related to the pursuit of such dog. However, nothing in this section shall be construed to grant civil immunity to the owner or the person in control of the dog for any personal injury or property damage caused by the dog.

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WILDHORSE
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Registered: Jan 2008
Location: Toxaway NC
Posts: 126

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in north carolina if your dogs go on someones private prop. you do have the right to get your dogs only if you do not take a weapon with you. we ran into a simular case last year cops wasnt going to let us but after talking to the land owner in a nice common since manner he relized that it would be best to let us get the dogs. by the way the cop said he would arrest the warden ha ha.

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J.R. Walkers
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Registered: Feb 2008
Location: Va.
Posts: 223

Here's the law for Va.

When the chase begins on other lands, fox hunters and coon hunters may follow their dogs on prohibited lands, and hunters of all other game, when the chase begins on other lands, may go upon prohibited lands to retrieve their dogs, but may not carry firearms or archery tackle on their persons or hunt any game while thereon. The use of vehicles to retrieve dogs on prohibited lands shall be allowed only with the permission of the landowner or his agent. Any person who goes on prohibited lands to retrieve his dogs must identify himself when requested by the landowner or his agent.

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RunninBear(Ike)
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Roosevelt, Utah
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I'm sure each state has different laws regarding dog recovery on posted ground. Where I live, a person should contact the fish and game to recover hounds on legally posted ground unless he knows the landowner and gains permission. I retain contact numbers in my cell phone on most of the conservation officers and biologists in the area I hunt so they can be reached if an event like that happens. But bottom line if I can't reach the landowner or the law I'm going after my dogs--period. This is the way I look at it, six hounds that can't be replaced for less than $15,000 to $25,000 bucks is worth the ticket............

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