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IF I BRED MY WALKER FEMALE TO THIS BLACK AND TAN MALE HOW WOULD I REGISTER THESE PUPS BLACK AND TAN OR WALKER? THESE PUPS WOULD BE WINNERS


***Gr Nt Ch Gr Ch 'Pr' Schenker's Smokin Jet
*Gr Nt Ch Gr Ch 'Pr' Rainey Brake Drifter
***Gr Nt Ch Gr Ch 'Pr' Rainey Brake Brandy

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***Gr Nt Ch 'Pr' Rat Attack
*Gr Nt Ch 'Pr' Keaton's Miss Lu Lu
***Gr Nt Ch 'Pr' Nocturnal Molly

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You can not register them as pups...........They would have to be each single registered WAY down the road individually.

Then they each would have to meet the breed standards and breed association requirements of the breed assoication as well as pass a hunt test to prove they can trail and tree a coon.

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I heard as soon as you can get them to track and tree no matter what age they can be registered it woiuld be crossbred registered at least that's. My understanding

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I believe in PKC you can register them as a cross, but I think they must be at least a year old before you can do that...

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I believe in PKC you can register them as a cross, but I think they must be at least a year old before you can do that...

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did she have them yet and if she did what color are they

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did she have them yet and if she did what color are they

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Don't register them. Grade dogs, why pollute either of the gene pools with a different breed. UKC doesn't have a cross breed registry. Calling them anything else is just lying to yourself. If you want to breed your dogs find something in thier own breed that is compatible with their traits. Or just accept them for what they are, Crossbreeds.

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Pollute the gene pool, gimme a break. I bet the redbone guys will be lined up to get some of that polluted Lil Red blood.

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I don't care how good a dog is or what color they are. It doesn't seem right to call them something they aren't.

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why would you want to groos 2 differntbreed of dogs if they are that good i want want to get pure bred dogs not downing you but dont make sense to me to do it jmo

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dont listen to these nutts....breed them if you think it will be a good cross....a coondog is a coondog and last time i check when you unsnap them you cant see their color anyway......id take a lil red or a tn. hardrock anyday and ive got me a black and tan/ walker on the way as soon as the cross is made.....if people would start breedin coodogs to coondogs, instead of breeding for color or the all mighty ALL GRAND pedigree they mite find themseleves with a better dog

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Clint ....THANK YOU so much for posting that......it makes no sense to me to why UKC "prides" themselves as being the 2nd most widely PURE BRED registar.....but see this.......they are simply encouraging cross breeding and it is absolutely ruining pure breeds. No one is more happier for Mr. Bellar and his hounds than myself(they obviously do some intense training), but contrary to what some believe I wouldn't own the Lil red dog if he gave her to me simply because she isn't a redbone nor a walker, but a cross.I don't encourage lying, and anyone who does....well I reckon it speaks for itself. UKC please don't erase this post if you have a mind too...just erase MY OPINION, if you must.

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I like it when guys believe they have a pure breed dog lol.lol. If it wasnt for dna. people would still be papering dogs FACT and if you think all these so called big breeders didnt do it in the past well your wrong ! And all the breeds need new blood fact to get a coon dog again not a comp. dog, remember when a coon dog got more credit then a comp. dog he always had a coon . Not first strike , not first tree , but coon dog .. breed the dogs

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registration with PKC they would be registered as cross bred as for UKC I would call and ask the registration dep. if they register cross bred hounds or if the pups could be registered as either walker or black and tan.

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I like it when guys believe they have a pure breed dog lol.lol. If it wasnt for dna. people would still be papering dogs FACT and if you think all these so called big breeders didnt do it in the past well your wrong ! And all the breeds need new blood fact to get a coon dog again not a comp. dog, remember when a coon dog got more credit then a comp. dog he always had a coon . Not first strike , not first tree , but coon dog .. breed the dogs

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Hey ratdaddy have you seen the New breeding yet ???

1/2 Pure French X 1/2 Old line Bluetick

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look at that.

Majestic you go with that labratory boy.

Cross n cross, get what ya want, we have a few (non walkers)scheduled to Rube but I dont tell, cuz its not my gyp.

Dang Majestic THat pup is HOUNDY lookin'

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This is his Sire "Pure" French "Grand Gascon Saintongeois"

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The cattle boys cross breed to get the best traits of two different breeds quickly. It could take years to get the same results within one breed. but they are breeding for physical traits and they know what colors are dominate, milk production and marbling advatages.mental traits are harder to pen down if you breed two good pure breed coondogs you know what colors and other physical traits you would have, and hope that the good mental traits that make you think they are good coondogs show up also. if you have a mix of walker and b&t you may get a surprise on color even generations down, but like it was mentioned earlier you cant see what color they are while they do what they are suppose to. over the past few years of listening to coon hunters of all breeds I think you could end up with a babbling track stratteler that goes to far with out enough drive, tree milling, slick treeing idiot that wont come to you and still wont handle or load and the worst part you don’t know witch breed to blame it on!!!

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I would love to hunt with those hounds and listen to em run a track.

I really like those ears, and Houndy lookin is a good thing

and that single spot on his head is nice.
are you raisin these for coondogs or lion dogs or fox hounds, what are they havin the best success at?

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"Turpins Stylish Rube" Breeding Females with 400 million live sperm/98% motility

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Tim Hubbell of Co. Made this Cross, He has imported 5 French hounds so Far .. This breeding is based on Breedings last made durring the 30s thur the mid 40s and is one of the Base lines of the Bluetick and some English lines.. Very Very Interesting to return to the Roots .. This is the Very First cross litter on Bluetick line since the mid 40s.

It has only came to a Positive light (in the past 6-7 months) that this was the Cross that Bill Green made and kept Secret.. Lots of Studies and Old Photos and 2- 1940 Films that John Green has reproduced to DVD !! If you have Lots of reading time heres the link to the early history http://www.biggamehoundsmen.com/for...f=6&t=12044

I bought this pup from Tim and we bought a Pure Bred French pup from Him.

These French Hounds will be very Compatible with the Majestics, Blues and English.

The Dam to the above Pup

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