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oleballcoach
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 Accuracy and track speed

I have always had squirrel dogs and just dabbled VERY little in hounds thru the years. What lines of walkers or english are known for accuracy. Also, important to me is a dog that drifts a track and being tight on the ground is a plus but not as important as accuracy and track speed. I AM NOT wanting to cause any arguments so I ain't concerned with what AIN'T considered accurate lol. Thanks in advance...sonny

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is this a trick question !! LOL

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is this a trick question !! LOL



No lol, like I said I don't know much about the hounds but I want a dog to be pretty accurate and move a track quick. If you see some of the same names over and over you get a better feel of what you are looking for.

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i have a english male dog that is hard time bred that gets the job done not much mouth on track but pours it on at the tree. about 90% acc. I also got a clover bred walker female that gives alot on track am tree thats about 80 to 85% acc
But its mustly up to the dog its self on the track an tree the acc its up to you

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 JMO....

You didn't describe many lines of hounds, but you did describe a lot of curs. I use to hunt hounds for a long time and was never satisfied. I was finally introduced to curs and haven't turned back since. You may already know about curs since you squirrel hunt. If I were you I would save my money trying to find a hound to fit the description, and look at a cur. jmo

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ive seen some house bred walkers that will drift a track and not say alot on the ground. most are accurate and loud enough to blow out your eardrums.

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You didn't describe many lines of hounds, but you did describe a lot of curs. I use to hunt hounds for a long time and was never satisfied. I was finally introduced to curs and haven't turned back since. You may already know about curs since you squirrel hunt. If I were you I would save my money trying to find a hound to fit the description, and look at a cur. jmo



Yeah, I have had curs for years. Problem I have had with them are getting one that will get treed and stay. I have had some that would and have seen some nice ones but the percentages aren't what I like. To be honest, I like the hound x birddog stuff alot or the hound x cur. I am looking for hounds to cross on birddogs for use as squirrel dogs more than anything but I want to use hounds that I like...sonny

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I have seen bluetick x cur cross a lot, but don't know what lines they are breeding. Usually if it is a cross its with a blue dog, not sure why. I hunted walkers a lot and lipper dogs are pretty close to what you describe. Good luck- in what ever you cross you try.

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No lol, like I said I don't know much about the hounds but I want a dog to be pretty accurate and move a track quick. If you see some of the same names over and over you get a better feel of what you are looking for.
Ok, here's the deal, the house bred dogs, and especially the Lipper type dogs are great track dogs, and depending on the cross, can be really accurate. I live in an area that I need a whole hound, track and tree; my dogs are heavy Lipper and Banjo bred; they are as you describe. I intend to cross a good Clover bred female in, as soon as I find what I am looking for; as the Clover dogs I have owned are very very accurate and some even have some track speed. Just my opinion. Tom

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The most accurate line of walkers I have seen are the Rolling Hills bred dogs out of Kansas. I had a female that I don't think ever made a single slick. She would not back a slick dog either.

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I have seen bluetick x cur cross a lot, but don't know what lines they are breeding. Usually if it is a cross its with a blue dog, not sure why. I hunted walkers a lot and lipper dogs are pretty close to what you describe. Good luck- in what ever you cross you try.
Some boys around my neck of the woods breed Northern Blue to Cur and love the out come.

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The most accurate line of walkers I have seen are the Rolling Hills bred dogs out of Kansas. I had a female that I don't think ever made a single slick. She would not back a slick dog either.


I need some of that!

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Travis,

The Rolling Hill dogs are bred by the Mick family. They have been line breeding dogs that go back to the litter out of Kaw River Chief and Tinsley's Kansas Tess (I think). My memory gets a fuzzing now days.

Anyway the litter I am referring to includes Rolling Hills Dan and Tom Tom. I believe nearly every dog in that litter titled out.

If I lived closer to Rick, I would be playing around more with them.

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There is a guy around here that has some blutetick pointer crosses. That was mistake but but both lines are good in their departmet. (bluetick is jet8 bred and the pointer is locker bred) and should make somthing I'd think. The are free if you are interested

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I have always liked the Lone pine Walker bred dogs especially with Wild Casey in the pedigree. Independant Accurate and alone

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ive seen some house bred walkers that will drift a track and not say alot on the ground. most are accurate and loud enough to blow out your eardrums.


YEA BACK AND FOURTH ALL NIGHT LOL!!!!!

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YEA BACK AND FOURTH ALL NIGHT LOL!!!!!


I would rather them go back and forth all night than, a straight line and tree five miles or more away from where you turned loose.

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What is house bred dogs?

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Okie... come on you have to be joking

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it's A line of walkers. even I knew that and I'm a bluetick man. Lol

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MY first walker is 4 months old and I have never been a blood line guy..........LOL i did think that but wasn't sure.....

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I understand this is your first walker, but I heard of smokey river and albert dogs. And owned neither breed. But reguardless good luck with your pup.

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I understand this is your first walker, but I heard of smokey river and albert dogs. And owned neither breed. But reguardless good luck with your pup.


Might ought to wish the pup good luck. I want to bounce it off the wall about half the time.LOL
No she is a good pup just full of energy. Got to love it but can sure be agrivateing some times....She reminds me of English Pointers..........

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Travis,

The Rolling Hill dogs are bred by the Mick family. They have been line breeding dogs that go back to the litter out of Kaw River Chief and Tinsley's Kansas Tess (I think). My memory gets a fuzzing now days.

Anyway the litter I am referring to includes Rolling Hills Dan and Tom Tom. I believe nearly every dog in that litter titled out.

If I lived closer to Rick, I would be playing around more with them.
Same line of dogs, Tom Tom>Clint>Lipper; the difference would be the modifiers, the family of females they were outcrossed on. Tom

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