Bama Bill
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Registered: Apr 2007
Location: Bay Minette, Alabama
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Mr. Graf ... Mr. Graf ... Mr. Graf ...
"Bill
Why did you post such a snotty hostile post? I will try to respond to your childish rant. Here goes."
Mr. Graf,
There wasn't anything "snotty" or "childish" about the post ... I thought I was in the presence of a feral hog hunting expert. But then I read the post an that was rapidly depleted.
I don't kill them with a bow or even a .30/.30 more often than not it is with a knife after it is caught. Certainly wouldn't let a hunter shoot a bow over my dogs , I like em a little too much for that ... everyone isn't the "dead eye" you are an so good at "locating" those "small vitals"! LMAO I catch hogs for the sport of it an the enjoyment of good comradre an dog work no more no less, I do get offended by folks that seem to be attempting to profess there expertise of hog hunting when there be so many holes in there stories!!!
Hogs lots of hogs even domestic hogs if allowed to roam are grazers not rooters that they only root is a "falsehood" ... not that they don't root but they are omnivoures an will eat anything an everything. Boar hogs don't travel with the "sounder" or herd, boars are canabalistic even domestic hogs. Ask any hog farmer if he would raise his champion Chester White pigs in the same pen as his Champion herd sire Chester White Boar? The answer is gonna be NO!! Sows stay away from boars, boars satalite the sows an pigs herd an slip in and out to breed or canablize. Young imature boars will roam with the herd till ran off by the older sows or an agressive boar.
"Bama Blacks" isn't me you fool ... he's a friend an Federal trapper ... an he must be doing a pretty d*ng good job on the wolves ... we ain't got a single wolf in this state as of this post!!!
Way to go Scott!!!! I can't seem to find any info on the Net about Wisconsin's wolf problem or there old feral hog herd that was eradicated by the Graf strain of bear dogs? LOL Or the Graf precise kill spot stalk hunting method. LOL Please steer me in that direction I love a good read about hogs.
And what I really find ludracris is the statement that you raise "Eurasion" wild boar but only to train an use for practice on your young bear dogs!!! But that they are "tame" as "domestic" hogs! What then could they possibly bring to the mix that would help make these pups better bear dogs? Lets see a bunch of hounds piling on a "tame" hog to learn how to perform on a "wild" bear? Man you should write a book your full of training pearls. Some where if I can find it I got a picture of 8 week old Plott pups working a 130 pound straight out of the swamp wild feral sow ... at some point she tries to fight an flee, they do what any HOG DOG should do they "talk" her out of it!!!
Eight week old pups ... not big ole half grown hounds mauling a tame bucket fed hog. If you put any two or three of my "young" dogs in the pen with a tame even tame Eurasian hog they'll withen a few minutes just suck it up cause they'll size it up an know it hasn't the agression to keep them honest. I really can't see where the brag is in that statement? You'll teach young dogs a since of bravado that they shouldn't have when perhaps caution be a better tool not to mention most good bred hard hunted hounds will know when to put the fight on a bear or hog ... Fill me in maybe I missed something? These ole boys down south will run a bear with the same dogs we use on hogs an we do pretty good other than we lack tree power cause hogs don't tree an it's something the dogs don't learn. That statement just proves my point an idea about where you an your expertise where coming from!
Being a Eurasion or Russian hog has nothing to do with it being a bit tougher or more deadly ... facts are in the wild they just ain't many Russian/Eurasion hogs left at all if any. There are pockets of hogs that contain the genes or of hogs that were released by hunters to improve the hogs in there area. Hogs become totaly feral in only 3 generations in the woods. Russian type hogs run more an bay less, hence the reason a lot of hound hunters dump them out to breed with the existing feral hogs ... so as to have hogs that bay less an run more... thus giving there hounds better game animal to pursue. Ask anyone that has DOGGED any amount of wild hogs an they will tell ya .. Russians run but they ain't the best fighters on average, and a lot will just die under the stress of being caught an tied, had it happen several times. A good many hour long race on a hog will often indicate the possibility it might have some Russian type blood in it. Any good dog hunter will tell ya them coal black 150 to 200 pound "piney wood" rooter hogs will put you out of the hog hunting game faster than any type hog out there ... the big silver an black spotted an black an white listed ones are not any fun either. Your gonna need to forgive me if I seem ill over your posts but they seemed to be so PROFESSIONAL an yet lacked any real meat on the plate, but I tell ya what since it has become evident what type hog hunter you are "(tame pen raised pile on the bear hound type) I'll just let ya off the hook .... FOR NOW!!!
Enjoyed it sir.
Bill
P. S. ...................
Mr. Graf I will say you were correct about the small window to the vitals on a feral hogs an I reckon I should have just posted this link an let sleeping dogs lie but it ain't in me .. when I see some one trying to explain a sport I love with so many inconsistencies I get offfended.... sorry. I should have just posted this link for POGO an moved on maybe but it ain't in me.
Here goes a good link for ya POGO .......
http://www.texasboars.com/anatomy.html
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08-17-2007 03:26 PM
I gave advice to somone about killing some released tame hogs in MI. This thread has nothing to do with TRUE WILD HOG HUNTING. Everything I said was true. Get this through your head. I don't doubt for a minute that you are an expert hog hunter. Everything you know is wasted on the tame hogs that nit wits release in MI. and WI. This is not a sport. These animals are free ranging bucket fed hogs.
