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Anyone know any cross throwing consistent cold nosed track driving machines. Please be specific

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I've got a litter of them on the ground. They're redbones. Parents will work an old track and then pick their head up and run when they get it warmed up. First cross is doing good. On lion, coon, and bear. One has been on a couple bobcats too.

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The hounds I hunt will all push a cold track and stay treed longer than I want sometimes..........

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These heavy Smokey River Bl. Diam. Jim and Smokey River JBS Chief bred dogs I have can blister a track.Nose on the ground when it needs to be and head up winding and drifting when it needs to be,they can just flat move a track.They are pretty decent tree dogs too.Consistantly strike and tree ahead of my buddy's Grand Nite Walker female.

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Am sure that there are many lines out there that can do the same job. But A simple answer is Have A look at the Lightfooted lions thread. Men that hunt. And dogs that clean up men's mistakes. If you give the dogs the honest chance to work there are few that fail. And it is not A one hit wonder. Proof is in the pictures in this forum. And cycle back and you can see that it is A yearly event. So talk is talk and I ain't much for that end but I have bled, walked, and run after these dogs for A long time and they work and live for it just as much as I do. Run what you wanna run, But give them the job again and again and maybe again.. If they have it, they will not let you down.

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Anyone know any cross throwing consistent cold nosed track driving machines. Please be specific

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You said be specific and so I will. Few if any these days have traveled as many miles behind a trailing lion hound as Hal Mecham. He's been breeding big game hounds for over forty years, hunting all over the west, catching tough lions in the dirt, mud, snow, and ice for much longer than I've known him and he lives for the sport.

Mecham has crossed his big game hounds into other stains that were and are hunted by some of the most famous men chasing lions, men that hunted the mountains, the desert, year round, for bounty and for a payday, men that road horses and mules and hammered out many a lion track afoot. Yes, these hounds are not only proven but proven through time and proven by hunting with the best and toughs men that ever followed or trained a hound, so I hope that is more specific......

Most all of the hounds I hunt today came from the old southern Utah bloodlines that were develped from the breeding that Hal Mecham has done, and if there is a harder pounding bred hound in the West I'd like to see them............

But the answer to your question is there are tons of hard trailing tough, cold nosed hounds out there tied up across the west. If you like the color, many of those hounds will do the job you need. But remember the bottom line is a person has to take a well bred hound and hammer the crap out of that dog on game to make a top end dog, cause none of them ever catch much o the chain.............

http://www.ingramwildlife.com/bearhole.wmv
my hounds on a bear catch, hounds that will do it year round in the dirt..


My Kody dog out of my blue Ryan dog goes back to Mecham hounds and two of the toughest, hardest trailing hounds I've ever been behind....


Griz and Ru Lui both out of Ryan, two ground pounding, hard treeing, tough footed, fast machines.........



Keep'em treed,
ike

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runninbear those are some good lookin hounds

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Thanks bones, and most of us guys that has caught much game knows there are alot of great hounds out there of all colors. What do you hunt?

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wanna get rid of kody haha ? that is a helluva bay up! good lookin hounds! wish i would learn to take the camera with me or even use it when i have haha ! great photos as well!!

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C. Burns 17,

Thanks! And don't forget that camera cause things happen and they are only a memory for you rather than something to share. I have a good buddy that has guided and outfitted for around thirty years name Shawn Labrum. He has been busy promoting his business with a video camera since the beginning, and that's how we became friends. I learned by hunting with him and watching that the day will come when I might want to share those adventures with family or friends, and the video and still camera provides the vehicle we need for the task.........

Back in the late 80s and 90s was was doing lots of outdoor writing and pohotography, and my adventures with Labrum dragged me into hounds. He received lots of free press and I receive a pup and the support needed to become a successful lion and bear guide. Life is full of tradeoffs, as I never planned to go that direction but it fell into my lap. I was, however, a hardcore big game hunter, writer and wildlife photographer and ready to move on into hounds when the time came. http://monsterbulls.com

http://www.ingramwildlife.com/picture.htm
http://www.ingramwildlife.com/about.htm
http://www.ingramwildlife.com/bear.htm

As far as Kody goes (lots of laughs) I've had about every buddy I know try to talk me out of that dog as a pup. That blue Ryan dog was my bear dog, the real deal so to speak, and I bred him hoping to get one to follow in his footsteps. From that first breeding came Kody and Griz, and as littermates Kody was a clone of his ol man and Griz favors Ike and LionHeart. I was only gonna keep one of them and they just kinda stuck...........

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Hello Ike,
I really enjoy reading your posts,keep them coming and the pics too. I agree, a person needs to stack the odds on his side by choosing a well bred pup. But there is alot of work , time and energy that goes into making a top notch dog out of that puppy.
I hunt plotts, but I also have a pair of redbones pups that are turning heads . One from the west (Kevin Jackson) and one from the east ( Donnie Stockton).
Seasons Greeting to You and your Family!
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Hello Ike,
I really enjoy reading your posts,keep them coming and the pics too. I agree, a person needs to stack the odds on his side by choosing a well bred pup. But there is alot of work , time and energy that goes into making a top notch dog out of that puppy.
I hunt plotts, but I also have a pair of redbones pups that are turning heads . One from the west (Kevin Jackson) and one from the east ( Donnie Stockton).
Seasons Greeting to You and your Family!
John

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Couldn't agree more. Seems like all the breeders want you to beleive it is all in the breeding. I know a lot of it is BUT just as much or more of it is in time off the chain and if they don't get that none of them will make a top dog.

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I've still got some pups. Getting great reports back on all eight pups from the last cross. These pups have what it takes if the person that gets them puts the time in and exposes them to the desired game. The parents have plenty of nose and more importantly plenty of brains to use it. Heard from more than one guy that these are some of the smartest pups they have owned. You could have the coldest nosed dog in the world but if he doesn't have the brains to use it you're pissing into the wind. These pups are the real deal. I'm not a big name breeder and I'm still wet behind the ears. Only been raising these dogs for 13 years and only on my fourth generation. Don't hunt for a living or catch huge numbers of cats. I hunt 2 or 3 dogs and I catch most everything I turn loose on. I catch bobcats where most won't even turn loose. I've had guys with good dogs that have been at this game a lot longer than me tell me I was nuts for turning loose on a bobcat in the rocks and wouldn't throw a dog in. Most of the time I catch those cats. One time I was back to the truck with the cat when one of these guys came back down the road. He's a walker man and has been running the same line a long time. He bought a pup from me that year and loves it. I don't know much but I do know what a good dog is. Good luck with whatever you buy.

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almost all English but I am not color blind a good dog is a good dog no matter what breed or who owns him

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If u like walkers go with either some good house bred or Boone bred dogs there some of the best track an stay put tree dogs in the walker breed

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Gene Hicks' Albert line of Black and Tans is known for coon & big game dogs with a lot track power.

Another line of Black and Tans that is more known as coon hounds, but are also good at moving a track is the Combs & Smith Smokey & other dogs going back to Dale Sowder's breeding out of KY.

We run a mix of these two lines on coon, but some of the guys in our hunting group bear hunt a good bit and have had some good success with them on the big game.

If I wanted to coon hunt more, I'd lean more toward the Smokey/Sowder dogs, and if I was more into the big game stuff I'd lean toward the Albert dogs. Just my $0.02

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I'd like to buy some pups off the red and white dogs. Any for sale? 904 239 1344 Thanks

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Cold nosed hounds are certainly not easy to find. Although there are plenty out there, I believe its how the dog is hunted and how often they are hunted. I recently had a fella that's been a life long hound hunter tell me that he doesn't want a lot of nose because it wastes to much time. I'll take all I can get as long as the dog can move forward and not stand on his or her head. That's exactly what I found when I bred the John Ray blueticks into our English dogs. Determined, COLD nosed track drivers with all the other qualities needed to catch tough big game.I have hunted them in VA mountains in Wy, Canada as well as here in WI and Mi. We also have some swamp rooster and Oneys blood worked in to these hounds that has blessed us with the hounds that most are looking for. Still they have to be handle correctly and given a lot of time. There is no secret to success, just hard work.

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I've seen 1 or 2 of those Ray dogs trail game most couldn't smell , lift there heads n breathe the same air in a hurry.

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I don't worry about breeding for tree power, seems most hounds have way more "tree" than I want. I breed for cold nose, track speed, brains and confirmation. If you want to hunt lions, coons and bobcats in rocky country where the annual rainfall is less than 15 inches it takes more nose than most coon hunters understand.
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ive hunted most of the coon hound breeds and have found that wilcox hardtime woostock and briar creek toghter seems to have gave me hounds that take cold hard tracks fairly fast and seem to be accurate

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