Has anyone ever seen a dog make huge circles (about 35 to 45ft)away from the tree before they settle. I know he is checking himself, but I have never seen one do it like this. He will locate,give a few tree barks and then get away from the tree and start running circles with his nose to the ground. He starts making wide circles and gets closer and closer to the tree. Kind of like a cork screw. When he gets back to the base of the tree he will re-locate and tree good. He does not do it with other dogs. Only does it when alone. Not a major problem, just takes a little longer to settle.
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i had one that did that. i think it was just because she was trying to make sure of herself, make sure that the coon was in the tree and didnt get away.
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obviously not a walker dog, they'll tree the first tree they come to coon there or not.... lmao... ok, ok, just kidding, don't start sending me hate mail or anything, i hunt with some dang fine walker dogs 2 or 3 nights a week, just prefer the black dogs myself
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quote:Originally posted by bassmaster1228 thats the way they supposed to to it
That's right, a dog that checks the tree is way more accurate. To many tree happy dogs with the brains bred out of them just lock up on tree and don't check.
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He is trying to be dead accurate for you.
Keep hunting him and he`ll get faster and quicker at it.
Sounds like he has some gray matter between his ears......
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Yep, they are supposed to do this.
Don't let anybody kid you thought, if you have one that can run a track fast enough they still get more than their share of first trees AND check the tree.
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quote:Originally posted by elvis You will get a lot of debates on if this is what a dog is supposed to do or not.
It will not get fed here, but to each their own.
Elvis, if it has what it takes it will get so efficient at it that nobody will be able to tell it even did it. A very quick circle one time around the tree and lock down treed.
It won't hurt their quickness one bit.
There's a difference in checking a tree and not settlin, millin etc.
Those that do it right do it quick and do it once.
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? Are you witnessing him do this or are you using your garmin? I'm usualy to far behind my dog to see exactly How she locates or sets up a tree other then her voice.....
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I have seen him do this a couple of times. Was wondering what was taking him a while to settle on some trees. So, I was close enough to actually walk in on him a couple of times and saw it for myself. Also, had a friend hunt him for me for a while and he saw him do the same thing. After reading all of this you should be able to gather that he makes more than one circle. He actually makes big circles and then makes smaller ones as he gets closer to the tree. Probably won't be comp. hunting him any so it's no big deal. I have just never seen one check himself like that. Howver, when he settles you usually find a den or the coon.
He sounds good to me. If you're not comp hunting then you will get to enjoy those rare dogs that others send packing because they aren't "quick" enough. I think that's what the old hunters use to like about their dogs that they were different and all theirs. Not just a copy of what everybody else has. He's accurate but does it his own way, I like it. It makes him unique, fun, and you can recognize what he's doing and know that he's got a coon when you go in to him. What a feeling! I had one once...
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Sounds good to me Matt...As long as its not taking him more than a couple of mins to check himself, I don't see a problem with it.Especialy if he has the meat.
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quote:Originally posted by elvis You will get a lot of debates on if this is what a dog is supposed to do or not.
It will not get fed here, but to each their own.
my female locates and i can tree her. she shuts up and checks a few seconds and starts chopping nothing wrong with that. once in a great while but not often she will move on if she is wrong but no dog is perfect.
quote:Originally posted by elvis You will get a lot of debates on if this is what a dog is supposed to do or not.
It will not get fed here, but to each their own.
if you pleasure hunting i would say this is ok but in a nite hunt i agree with elvis and i wouldn't put up with it. while that dog is circling and checking for a track going on another dog will have your tree.
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Re: Ever have a dog do this????
quote:Originally posted by Matt Marshall Has anyone ever seen a dog make huge circles (about 35 to 45ft)away from the tree before they settle. I know he is checking himself, but I have never seen one do it like this. He will locate,give a few tree barks and then get away from the tree and start running circles with his nose to the ground. He starts making wide circles and gets closer and closer to the tree. Kind of like a cork screw. When he gets back to the base of the tree he will re-locate and tree good. He does not do it with other dogs. Only does it when alone. Not a major problem, just takes a little longer to settle.
Your grandad would of killed for a dog like that. If he locates first what is the problem? He is seeing if the coon stayed in the tree or jumped. Some of the old dogs back when I wa a kid did it. I haven't seen any in a long time though.
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If you can't put up with it in a nite hunt, then it must be a fault....right? And if it is a fault, then why should or would a pleasure hunter put up with it?
Since I began useing a Garmin over a year ago I have noticed that MOST dogs do this. You can watch them setting up a tree time after time on the Garmin. Some locate and then check, most don't. But I have noticed more check that don't check.
quote:Originally posted by JiM Since I began useing a Garmin over a year ago I have noticed that MOST dogs do this. You can watch them setting up a tree time after time on the Garmin. Some locate and then check, most don't. But I have noticed more check that don't check.
I am sure alot of dogs will check themselves some but going 35 or40 feet away from the tree to check themselves is a fault. A dog that does that will never be fast enough to make a top competetion dog. The dogs i have seen that go that far away from a tree to check were "last coon up type dogs" anyway. If there was a track going on even if there was a coon in that tree they were going on.
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quote:Originally posted by JiM If you can't put up with it in a nite hunt, then it must be a fault....right? And if it is a fault, then why should or would a pleasure hunter put up with it?
I think is is pretty well agreed that comp. hunt and pleasure hunt for most are differant types of dogs. So it could be a fault for one and not for the other.
I think I would like it in comp. If it is a hot fast race to the tree you could tree it on it's locate. If it is off by itself and slower older track you could wait till the dog checked itself before treeing. I am not a good dog caller at all though. It just sounds like it would kind of be a safety net.
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