Registered: Jan 2005
Location: SOUTHERN IA/NORTHERN MO
Posts: 134

I RECENTLY BOUGHT A 6 YEAR OLD FEMALE FROM A HIDE HUNTER, WITH HOPES OF FINISHING HER OUT AND RAISING PUPS. I AM NOT GOING TO MENTION BREED OR PEDIGREE. SHE CAME INTO HEAT AND SHOULD BE READY TO STAND THIS WEEKEND, I CONTACTED AN OWNER OF A STUD DOG TO ARRANGE BREEDING WHO AFTER TELLING HIM WHAT I HAD TELLS ME HE HAD THIS FEMALE SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND FOUND OUT HE HAD PUT SOME WINS ON HER EVEN SO IT SOUNDED LIKE MY JOB WAS GOING TO BE EASIER, THEN GOES ON TO TELL ME HES SURPRISED SHES STILL ALIVE, THAT SHE HAD A HEART MURMUR AND HE SOLD HER TO A MAN THAT WAS AWARE OF THE CONDITION, WHO IN RETURN DIDNT FIND IT IMPORTANT TO TELL ME, OR LET ME REPHRASE THAT SAYS HE HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF IT YOU BE THE JUDGE(ALTHOUGH PEOPLE PRESENT WHEN HE BOUGHT HER SAID HE HAD FULL KNOWLEDGE). IT DOESNT AFFECT THE WAY SHE HUNTS OR ANYTHING THE ONLY THING I NOTICED BEFORE I FOUND OUT ABOUT IT IS SHE KIND OF GRUNTS OR A LITTLE COUGH WHEN I LEAD HER OUT THE WOODS AND NEVER TIRES OUT. HAS ANYONE EVER RAISED PUPS OUT A FEMALE WITH THIS CONDITION. TELL ME ANYTHING YOU KNOW OR WANT TO SHARE

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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: ALABAMA
Posts: 5183

I wouldn't breed her for the simple reason of not taking the chance on passing on congenital heart defects on more dogs.

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Registered: May 2010
Location: Pa.
Posts: 16

Some years ago had a redbone pup I sold the fella told me later the female had a heart murmor, said she tired easily and said she would grunt too. I offered him his money back or another pup He was so attached he decided to keep her as a pet.

Few years back I raised a litter of English the only female pup got tired very easily I took her to the vet and hers was bad so I had her put down.

I would say take her to the vet and find out how serious it is but I would not breed her as she may pass the genetics on. Good luck.

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Registered: Jan 2005
Location: SOUTHERN IA/NORTHERN MO
Posts: 134

I WAS LEANING ON NOT BREEDNG HER FOR THOSE REASONS, I WILL JUST USE HER TO FINISH MY PUPS WITH AND KEEP HER AROUND FOR PLEASURE HUNTING,THE GUY I GOT HER FROM IS GIVING ME MOST OF WHAT I INVESTED IN HER BACK. I TOOK HER TO A FEW VETS WHO SAY IT IS A LOW GRADE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT EVER EFFECT HER SHE COULD LIVE 5 SECONDS OR LIVE TO BE 15 WHO KNOWS.

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Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Chattanooga, Tn
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A lot of dogs and a lot of people have "heart murmurs". In people it is more prevalent in females. The problem is a weak or "floppy" valve. When it closes it lets a little blood leak through and causes a squishy sound. The problem can be very minor or it can be life threatening. There are all stages depending on the severity of the valve. The problem becomes worse with age as the valve wears out. It is more pronounced with exercise and stress or illness. Most of the time you will only recognize the problem if the dog is hunted hard every night for 2 or 3 weeks. It will also show up when the dog gets a respiratory infection or bronchitis. Most of the time you will not know that your dog has a heart murmur. It is usually a congenital defect and is inherited. My mother has had a bad valve all of her life. She is 92 yrs old and worked all of her life and raised 3 boys. I had a male walker dog that had a bad valve. He was one of the best that I have ever hunted. I hunted him hard and the only time that he had a problem was when he got pneumonia one time as a 2 yr old.

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