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quote: Originally posted by Ship
I understand that if they are just there its there Strike points only. I know the question doesnt say if they were called treed or not. I was just simply adding to it with the new rule change if the handlers of these dogs treed after the 5 and where on the closed tree they would get Minused both ways! I guess I should of sid in my original post if they were called treed by the handler after the 5 and not just said treed.
A Rule 4(k) will be added to read: {Any dog(s) declared treed after five minutes expires and tree is closed; call will be accepted as a split tree. If dog is on closed tree when judge arrives, points will be minused.} Even with this change nothing will change in regards to declaring split trees in accordance with Rule 11. The judge will still declare a dog as split and record it as such when it is obvious to him/her. The only difference will now be that the judge will no longer have the authority to not accept a tree call after a tree has been closed.
If a handler chooses to declare their dog treed then it would be recorded as a split, even when it’s not obvious to the judge. (in this situation only)It is very important to note or remember that this change will add more responsibility on the part of the handler. If a handler chooses to declare their dog treed after a tree has been closed it would simply result in tree points being recorded as split, regardless of whether the dog was obviously split by the judge or not, (in this situation only) and if the dog is found to be treeing on the closed tree; those tree points are minused and strike points scored accordingly in accordance with Rule 4(g).
Yep, this is correct. I was just making sure it was 100% understood that tree points can not be assigned under any other circumsance except at a slick or off game tree to dogs that were there TREEING AND NOT DECLARED TREED WHEN THE JUDGE ARRIVED.
I figgured you may have been thinking they declared them or something and what you said is 100% correct if they had declared the dogs treed after the 5, but for some reason there is a belief that you can just start assigning tree points every time you minus a tree if you feel like it on this board. That's just not true. The only two instances are when dogs are there and activly treeing at a slick or off game tree.
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