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amcnhunter
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Registered: Apr 2009
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New Trick

I had an `ol coon hunter give me a good tip on deer breaken a young dog...This doesn`t even envolve leaving the pen.. Wal-Mart has a deer scent called Deer Dander.... Put you shock collar on your dog have someone walk your dog and while your dogs being walked goto your pen and hang a piece of rag...paper towel..or what ever in the pen put the dog back in the pen and go in the house....whatch the dog through a window when the dog goes to smell it BURN `EM...The dog won`t put you in the picture.... This deer dander has actual dander from whitetail deer..I did this 3 weeks ago with a young blue bitch that would absolutely run the hair off of a deer...NOT anymore...made a believer out of me..

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patches9452
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deer breaing

people here i know have put scent in a can and run an electric fence wire to it they then hung about 3 feet off kennel floor so no accidental bumping into it and leave it there the whole time they are raising puppies seems to work good for them from the accounts i've heard

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amcnhunter
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Hey appreciate that.....mabe i`ll have to try that one ...makes sense...you don`t have to set and watch your dog...hehe you`ll know when there in the can.....thanks again

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Bryan Hashman
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I have goats in a fenced in field beside my dog kennels. The dogs get use to the scent and I don't have problems with dogs running deer. A old timer told me about doing that a long time ago.

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Jeff Eaves
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yep goat thing works had female come in heat didn't have pen to put her in back then friend said u can put her in my shed with my goats just 4 weeks livein with them she was broke

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Lowell Lynn
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I PREFERE NOT TO BREAK MY PUPS OFF DEER UNTIL THEY HAVE RUN A COUPLE. THEY HUNT BETTER, TRACK BETTER AND SEEM TO HAVE A BETTER ATTITUDE ABOUT HUNTING. ONCE THEY HAVE RAN THEM FOR A WHILE, I WILL TAKE THEM OUT AT NIGHT AND TURN THEM LOOSE ON A DEER. THEN I BUMP THEM OFF WITH THE EC. I HAVE TRIED YOUR METHOD BACK IN THE DAY WHEN JOHN WICK CAME OUT WITH WWW #1 AND IT SEEMED TO WORK BUT A LITTLE TO GOOD. WHEN THEY SMELLED DEER THEY WOULD FREAK OUT AND COME IN FROM HUNTING. THIS IS ALL JMO.

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amcnhunter
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Well......Shes run her couple of deer...Shes a GREAT coon dog just has a bad habit of runnen the hair off of a deer then fallen off on coons..she`s only 16 months old never thought of putten her in with goats...Kool gettin lots of good Ideas...I really appreciate all the help...Shes out of Rambo...

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Larry Atherton
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I know a beagle hunter who tried the goat method. He not only went out and bought a goat he got the meanest goat he could find.

Long story short one day he calls and invites us over for dinner. As I am sitting there eating a mighty fine stew and looking out the window, I asked hey where is your goat? He replied, "well I was out feeding the chickens and dropped my can of corn ... I bent over to pick that can up ... and that there is why we are eating this stew today.

Long part of the story his beagles never quit running deer.

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quote:
Originally posted by Bryan Hashman
I have goats in a fenced in field beside my dog kennels. The dogs get use to the scent and I don't have problems with dogs running deer. A old timer told me about doing that a long time ago.


Ditto, ..I hunt deer and the musky smell of the deer.. smells like goat.....so now we raise and sell goats....Plus I dont run for a mile, tryin to figure out what that dang dog is trackin...

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Shes a GREAT coon dog just has a bad habit of runnen the hair off of a deer then fallen off on coons


if she does that i wouldnt break her. trust me you can do some winnin with a dog like that. i like a dog that does that if they do it right.

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John Wick had a very similar setup where you put a dog in a box for two weeks and sveral times a day you go out there without dog seeing you and you have a pully system set up that take a deer scented rag to the dog and you basically shock the dog half to death when he/she starts smelling the scent. The only thing wrong with that is you still have to follow up in the woods. So if thats the case run shock collars on your young dogs from the time they start hunting and if they ever run trash wait till they get just about outta hearing and have no mercy on them till they make it back to you. Works for me it wont take but a few times of this and they will be broke unless you have a problem already there you refuse to see.

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