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..........1 minute left in the hunt..............you turn loose, there is a good chance the cast will not make the deadline by the time you get the hounds back............do you turn loose or walk out the minute?????????...I walk the minute out and don't cause somebody a cast win at an RQE..........

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I'll walk, whether I'm 25 behind or 200 in the hole. You have a chance of striking a coon in that time, but very rarely will you get a tree that fast. If you do cut, most likely the dogs will get out of pocket and you'll have no chance what so ever of making deadline.

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You got to hunt 120 minutes, not 119.

If I'm guiding, I would especially want to turn loose, anyway. I try to keep a dog that can get treed in a heartbeat and I try to know where a close coon is.

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You got to hunt 120 minutes, not 119.

If I'm guiding, I would especially want to turn loose, anyway. I try to keep a dog that can get treed in a heartbeat and I try to know where a close coon is.

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You got to hunt 120 minutes, not 119.

If I'm guiding, I would especially want to turn loose, anyway. I try to keep a dog that can get treed in a heartbeat and I try to know where a close coon is.

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You got to hunt 120 minutes, not 119.

If I'm guiding, I would especially want to turn loose, anyway. I try to keep a dog that can get treed in a heartbeat and I try to know where a close coon is.

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If you are walking and don't have time out called then you are still "hunting". Please show me John what rule says that dogs must be loose and running for hunting time to be used! You would only call time out if new ground is needed to finish that minute and/or you are going to move by nehicle. Otherwise there isn't a need to stop time and therefore the minute will probably expire before you get the dogs cut back loose. Not to mention SPORTSMANSHIP!

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Walking that minute is part of the hunt time.
If I'm behind less than 250 points I will turn loose and hope my dog slams a 1st and 1st.

I have been on casts when Elvis turned his dog loose with less than 2 minutes in the hunt and went in with another 225 on top of what he already had. In UKC points are everything. If you don't have enough to win, you don't lose anything by missing deadline.

If I'm an ahole cause I hunted 120 minutes, then so be it. But in my mind the ahole is the guy that won't finish a hunt.

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Walking that minute is part of the hunt time.
If I'm behind less than 250 points I will turn loose and hope my dog slams a 1st and 1st.

I have been on casts when Elvis turned his dog loose with less than 2 minutes in the hunt and went in with another 225 on top of what he already had. In UKC points are everything. If you don't have enough to win, you don't lose anything by missing deadline.

If I'm an ahole cause I hunted 120 minutes, then so be it. But in my mind the ahole is the guy that won't finish a hunt.

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Walking that minute is part of the hunt time.
If I'm behind less than 250 points I will turn loose and hope my dog slams a 1st and 1st.

I have been on casts when Elvis turned his dog loose with less than 2 minutes in the hunt and went in with another 225 on top of what he already had. In UKC points are everything. If you don't have enough to win, you don't lose anything by missing deadline.

If I'm an ahole cause I hunted 120 minutes, then so be it. But in my mind the ahole is the guy that won't finish a hunt.

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What I am saying is that I would not be ragging someone because they wanted to hunt every second of the 120 minutes. And like I said, walking to recast IS part of that 120 minutes. You figure it out from there.

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1 MINUTE LEFT IN THE HUNT....YOU WALK A MINUTE.....HUNT IS OVER.....DON'T CUT THEM LOOSE B/C HUNT IS OVER!!!!!!!! Would you + a tree that you saw the coon in when you were walking away and shine time was over that you had already aggreed to circle? NO B/C time was up on that tree. SAME here walk a minute from tree to recast with 1 minute left in the hunt.....HOW is the time not over?

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What I am saying is that I would not be ragging someone because they wanted to hunt every second of the 120 minutes. And like I said, walking to recast IS part of that 120 minutes. You figure it out from there.

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Casey, think about what you are saying. No ahole or anyone else can call time out with a minute left or an hour left. It takes a majority of the cast to call timeout. That purty well eliminates the possiblilty that time will get called with one minute left and deadline on the edge.

Go back and read the 1st post. No mention whatsoever about calling timeout. Where did the timeout come from?
Also walking a minute to recast is PKC/AKC. There is nothing in the UKC rulebook that says you must walk a minute or any specific time to recast. You can recast directly from the tree if the judge tells you to.

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walking to recast IS part of that 120 minutes. You figure it out from there.

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............you cut 'em loose folks vote on this!........lol

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Casey, think about what you are saying. No ahole or anyone else can call time out with a minute left or an hour left. It takes a majority of the cast to call timeout. That purty well eliminates the possiblilty that time will get called with one minute left and deadline on the edge.

Go back and read the 1st post. No mention whatsoever about calling timeout. Where did the timeout come from?

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In all the commotion I forgot to vote.

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In all the commotion I forgot to vote.

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If we are hunting in coon country up north where you could tree a pop up in a minute, or if we had been treeing'em quick all night, well I MIGHT could see that. If we are hunting in Texas and the cast wants to turn'em loose again, I hope like hell I'm guiding b/c I'm fixing to show'em that sportsman like thing for turning loose with a minute to go can work both ways.

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Rules say WALK 1 MINUTE and recast dogs.

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I don't own a dog that can tree a coon in a minute.

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Aww, if making up rules doesn't work, THEN we can admit the dog can't get it done, lol.

I don't have feeder buckets or thick coons and maybe in 1 out of 10 or 20 or even 50 tries I can get a coon treed in that minute. I like those odds. Depends on the time of year and what the coons are in. I'm out there hunting enough during the week that if I often know where a coon or litter is hanging out. I'll preserve that spot for a quick dump in a cast. I also try to keep a dog that can get treed in a heartbeat....

I know sometimes a dog being on the leash is part of the hunt. If its alright to burn 1 minute that way, then how much is too much? Those that will burn a minute will likely burn alot more. At some point it becomes an issue for other cast winners in the hunt, the ones that hunted the full 120 minutes. They won't call you ahole or bad sportsman, they will call you a CHEATER.

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From my experenice most dogs around here that get treed in a "heartbeat" ain't one I want to have on my leash cause 9 out of 10 times that dude will be - instead of +. I'll take my dog that will tree the coon and get the + and you can have your mintute tree dog and take all the - you want!!

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Yep, all kinds of things can go wrong in that last minute. All of them I can think of are related to the dog screwing up or not being trained right.

That last minute is an opportunity for minus and thats why its critical to the other casts that you have the full time to get to whatever score you and your dog rightfully deserve.

But you never answered the question. Neither of the 19 or so other people that said they'd walk off a minute did, either.

If burning 1 minute off the clock is acceptable, how much is unacceptable?

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..........1 minute left in the hunt..............you turn loose, there is a good chance the cast will not make the deadline by the time you get the hounds back............do you turn loose or walk out the minute?????????...I walk the minute out and don't cause somebody a cast win at an RQE..........

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