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C.Stoppelman
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WE PAY TAXES AND TRUST LAWMAKERS AND THIS IS HOW WE'RE REPAYED!!! (grafic pics)





this happend at a UKC hunt on Sat Sept 18th ....it was the handy work of two FEDERALY PROTECT timber wolfs and I conntacted the DNR and there's nothing they can do so passed it on to the feds and they basicly said because this is the first report and they're not really bothering anything else they not even sending out trappers on sharp shooters or doing anything about the problem!!!!! when will it be enough!!!!!!!! when a human is attacked...or a child is hurt by one!!!!!! WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE WOLFS NOW......BEFORE SOMETHING WORSE HAPPENS!!!!

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take it into your own hands, sorry for your loss. if that was my dog, there would be hell to pay. deer season is coming, at least for us in pa. get back time. do what you have to do. politicians have no clue.. thanks to peta and the likes. i am so sorry for your dog.
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Sorry, thats a shame,

the hound I'm sure had human sent on it,the wolfs would meet their doom if possibale. .308/7.62w.

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Check this out! Found it on an active thread on the Big Game page..I'll post that link as well..
http://dnr.wi.gov/org/land/er/mamma...f/dogdepred.htm



Here is thread I got the above link from:
Scroll down about half the page...Be warned, Very gross graphic pics!
http://forums.ukcdogs.com/showthrea...threadid=325714

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its easy.... shoot, shovel, shut up.... problem solved

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its easy.... shoot, shovel, shut up.... problem solved

Wish it was that easy. Approx 4000 in MN. DNR has 1 or 2 in each pack collared. They are monitored almost daily and if you are caught they will prosecute to the fullest. Which will include jail time. They are on the endangered species list which make it a federal crime.

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wolf problem

well they will pay for livestock like cow,pigs,goats,sheep,ect but they wont pay for any pets (not just hounds...anything) but yet I scratch my head and go wait a seconad they did for the dogs killed in WI but not in MN!!!!!!!!! i don't know what's going on but all I have to say is I'M GOING TO GET ANSWERS...ONE WAY OR ANOTHER!!!!!!! it's not even about the money it's about the fact that we are protecting something that's a problem and everyone knows it yet a few stupid tree huggers have the say over it...IT'S TIME FOR CHANGE!!!!!!

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VOTE THE BUMS OUT OF OFFICE. THEY WORK FOR US. TELL THEM WHAT WE WANT AND IF THEY WILL NOT DO IT WE WILL VOTE IN THE ONES WHO WILL.

OLDTIMERS KILLED THESE LAND SHARKS OFF FOR A REASON. WE NEED TO GET RID OF THEM.

KEEP POSTING THIS UNTIL EVERYONE SEES IT. PUT IT ON ALL FORUMS.

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Man that's tough. Its the gators down here. No wolves so far.

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chris give guy a call 320-225-0144 his dog was attacked last bobcat season and managed to get away/fight it off. he reported it to the local game warden also and he said there was nothing that could be done appartently the warden never reported the incident. if the feds told you it's a one time thing.

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go back to the location the hound was killed, hang a dead coon and let a dog tree it, setup down wind with 7mm mag when he comes in gut shoot him, so it runs off with the collar, if you shoot one never go back there and dont brag about it, you want the wolf found with the guts blown out of it that way the dnr knows were serious

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I know of place here where the coyotes are getting so thick, that the locals are putting out anti freeze soaked meat in the winter and it is working well

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I know of place here where the coyotes are getting so thick, that the locals are putting out anti freeze soaked meat in the winter and it is working well
Dont forget and turn your dog aloose in the anitfreeze area.

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the area is next to a major highway, the antifreeze is less a threat than the chrome bumpers LOL all the locals know of this, 15 songdogs last year

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quote:
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the area is next to a major highway, the antifreeze is less a threat than the chrome bumpers LOL all the locals know of this, 15 songdogs last year


Re: wolfs

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sussie...no we dropped him off after the first drop so he wouldn't bark in the box while we was trying to hunt...and I have emailed the state coonhunters president and waiting for a reply back cause ya they always said they saving all that $ for a rainy day when us hound hunters need it for laws and stuff well I think the rainy day fund time has come!!!! and so help me IF the ever put a season on wolfs I want the first tag MN hands out...no matter what the price is I want first crack and I think I have a very good reason why!!!!! and my friend Kila (who's hound was also hurt that night) should get the 2nd tag!...it's time all us houndmens and women come together (and non houndsmen who still feel the wolfs need to be off the list) to join forces and get something done with this problem....before something worse happens!!!
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i think a class action suit aganist the dnr and the state of mn. or any of the other states allowing the wolfs to run rampent would open some eyes,,, even if the courts dont allow it ,it could be posted in the local papers how they protect the killers and then prosacute a citizen for having a dog that bites another dog/person

if the dnr dont do anything,
myself i think a nationwide call to arms by the coonhunter clubs and deerhunters/trappers accross the states to kill on site any wolf seen should bring the dnr out of their bullship not doing anything about it..

if my dog comes into your yard and kills your dog,,it gets put down by most laws,,

the wolf belongs to who,,let them be accountable for the same law for their animals..

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This is going to sound like a really stupid question...but...was that a male dog? The reason I am asking this is because last year a couple of coyotes got hold of my neighbors male dog and did the samething to him. Sad thing was, they didn't kill him out right and some how he made it back home, but had to be put down do to the severe injuries.

It's nice to see all those 'wolf' things they have out there, coats, jackets, blankets and what not with wolf pictures on, but if the people could only see the destruction they do, I don't think near as many would 'worship' them, like they do now.

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Wish it was that easy. Approx 4000 in MN. DNR has 1 or 2 in each pack collared. They are monitored almost daily and if you are caught they will prosecute to the fullest. Which will include jail time. They are on the endangered species list which make it a federal crime.


dont get caught. simple.

shoot first, dont ask questions later. just forget about it and dont tell a soul.

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dont get caught. simple.

shoot first, dont ask questions later. just forget about it and dont tell a soul.

im with him , i know ive seen a few of them and ,well never mind

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WE PAY TAXES AND TRUST LAWMAKERS AND THIS IS HOW WE'RE REPAYED!!! (grafic pics)

You trust law makers? That is your first mistake. They go to the highest bidder. If no bidder then it goes to the one that makes the most noise. Works like that from local all the way threw the fed's.

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wolfs

yes it WAS a male dog and the DNR game warden said it was a territorial thing and thanks for all the support everyone!!!! I guess it might be open season on "tall coyotes" they do say everything is bigger then farther north you go

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WE PAY TAXES AND TRUST LAWMAKERS AND THIS IS HOW WE'RE REPAYED!!! (grafic pics)

You trust law makers? That is your first mistake. They go to the highest bidder. If no bidder then it goes to the one that makes the most noise. Works like that from local all the way threw the fed's.



Is it possible we could get a bid in for the law to go our way for once.

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This was dave Samuels dog you guys may know him may have seen these pics already.






its a **** shame that these animals our running around eating our deer killing our friends they should be eraticated or in a zoo
whare they belong...



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PETA and HSUS

The AR people LOVE it when our hounds are victims of wolves and coyotes. They fund the programs that support these predators. Remember, they have a huge war chest to pay lobbyists and they cheer everytime they learn one of our hounds has been a victim of a predator. Hounds are a cruel "domestic predator" according to the AR people.
We need to get rid of the politicians and AR people making it increasingly difficult for us to breed and free cast hounds.
The ranching/agriculture community is uniting against AR legislation and maybe we can join and contribute to their efforts as the AR people are attempting to put ALL of them out of business. (Can you say "TOFU?") Wolves & coyotes are also a problem for them, but how high on the list of political fights is the topic of predators for the farmers/ranchers?

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OMG! That is one of the worst pictures I have ever seen! You all need to ban together, shoot, bury or gut shoot and leave. And then folks wonder why I'm afraid to go hunting by myself!

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