Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Cambridge Springs, PA
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I am just wondering how many of you used chilled semen to AI your dog. And what is the success rate of it. I am considering doing it to my dog on her next heat cycle.

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no no no no no no

ok it didnt work ............but it did take 700$ not to work....all vet proceedings /ai shipping/ ultrasounds/trip money...

then learned AI if succesful is smaller litters....

did learn Greyhound Vets have a 100% success ratio...if you are into the track dogs/people.

let em do it natural in my Opinion ..which is mine...but i BOUGHT IT

and drive the female over there and get er done.

see ya in the spring Josh.I will be sleeping in my car.

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Yeah, I spent the $700.00 too except the semen I used was frozen instead of chilled. Not sure how long it had been frozen but it was atleast 3 years. I got 8 pups.

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DON'T LET THEM TALK YOU INTO THE SURGICAL METHOD. NOT THE ROUTE TO TRAVEL. VAGINAL BY A VET THAT KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING WORKS FINE. A SMALL LITTER IS BETTER THAN NONE AND EASIER ON THE FEMALE. THERE IS NO MONEY IN RAISING A BUNCH OF PUPS ANYWAY. <v>

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did you all do it the surgical way or the other.

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the other with a vet inserting chilled semen.

do whats right for you, naturally.

but I'll not do it unless the stud is dead. then it might be frowen speciman and it might be placed directly on the eggs and the whole thing might turn out different...

go to a vet that has happy customers with the procedure.?.

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Get a Real Stud Dog That Reproduces... Not One that wins a Title himself. But gives you a litter of CoonDogs.!!!

Grand Nite Champion Turpins Stylish Rube.

Sire of World Champion "Insane Jane"

Also another--Hamptons Stylish Jewel Placing 9th in The UKC World Hunt Last Year. She Took Them to 14th Place This Year !!!

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh85/HuntingFamily/100_1125.jpg

"Turpins Stylish Rube" Breeding Females with 400 million live sperm/98% motility

"High Quality Sperm, like His Dad Stylish Hickory Nut Harry" Dr. Kenneth O'Hanlon-All Pets Medical Center, Altus, Ok.

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I have no idea how it is done. I just dropped my bitch off and picked her up when he called. Dean Bitzell at NeverGone handled it and the cost would have been cut in half if he had been the one who had drawn the semen.

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vet here in PA said she could do it for the price of an office visit since she did not have to collect the semen which is not bad at all. And it will be done vaginally.

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found a COOL listing

http://www.akc.org/reg/AIstorage.cfm


is she on there....any one with credentials....my vet sounds like your vet...700$ merry-go-round....sorry bad experience...started cheap...but total losses HIGH.

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Get a Real Stud Dog That Reproduces... Not One that wins a Title himself. But gives you a litter of CoonDogs.!!!

Grand Nite Champion Turpins Stylish Rube.

Sire of World Champion "Insane Jane"

Also another--Hamptons Stylish Jewel Placing 9th in The UKC World Hunt Last Year. She Took Them to 14th Place This Year !!!

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh85/HuntingFamily/100_1125.jpg

"Turpins Stylish Rube" Breeding Females with 400 million live sperm/98% motility

"High Quality Sperm, like His Dad Stylish Hickory Nut Harry" Dr. Kenneth O'Hanlon-All Pets Medical Center, Altus, Ok.

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that was my next question do i need to do anything special for the UKC if i want to register these pups.

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Go to www.camelotfarms.com this website will tell you all you want to know on the subject.I have had great success with surgical and vaginal.The most important part is the progesterone tests if you do not do these it isn't going to work.This is why natural breedings miss too if the eggs have not dropped it isn't going to work no matter how you do it.And surgical implant is not hard on the female and is the way most Whitetail are bred now days with the high dollar buck semen.

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With fresh semen it's they way to go and I myself have a microscope so I can check the semen before I AI the female! AI with chilled semen is no different other than you should centrifuge
the semen to seperate it from the prostetic fluids which is clear. Should be done by owner of stud or vet!! Semen should be checked with microscope to make sure it is good! Just draw the clear fluid out of the vial after it is cetrifuged and then add semen extender to it and cap it!! 1 to 2 CC'S !! They make a semen shipping kit that you package the semen in to keep it chilled and should be shipped overnite the day before female is ready to breed. It's simple, quick and easy to do!! I have had 100% success rate and I have bred females that didn't have pups even when they were bred natural the time before! It's the only way to go if the drive is a long trip but it's always nice to see the stud your breeding to go before it all said and done!! JMO!! FROZEN semen is alot different deal to do!! Time for the vet that knows what he is doing!!

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First off this is just what works for me. We have a small Bulldog Kennel with aout 10 bulldogs. All our dogs are AI's including several Cooh Hounds over the years. I do all my own collection and AIing in my kennel and in 5 years have only missed two dogs. Like Danny said it is very important to look at your semen before you use it to make sure it is swimming. The only thing about AI breeding a dog is to make sure you have the pippet in the uterus canal and not in the uninery canal but if you have it in the worng place you will know it. you also have to measure the pippet to make sure you are placing semen on the uterus for fertilization and not just placing it inside the vaginal area where it never gets to where it needs to be. where most vets make mistakes is in this area, some dogs are really hard to get the pippet started in the uterus canal and can take some work to find the opening but once the pippet enters the canal you will know it with expeirence. or rate os success is 95% or better other than the two dogs mentioned above. it is also very important to position your female in the right postion to allow semen to swim to the right location and hold them there for atleast 5-9 minutes after inserting semen.

If i'm using frozen semen it should always be placed surgically. the semen after being froze does not swim near as good as chilled and the life of the swimmers is much less and the semen count is much less as being froze also. when ising frozen semen i would always recommend to have your vet place ON the uterus surgical.

this is all only my opinion and what works for me may not work for you.

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I always use my show bench and put one side of the fold up legs down thus creating an incline. Females rear to be place on the high side thus letting mother nature and gravity take its place. Good luck!! If your not sure you have the pippet or tube in the right position, just remember that you have to go up and over the pelvis to enter the ueterus. Any other position and you will have it in the urinary track!! I start my tube in a 45 to 60 degree angle and guide it up and over. Then as you start to enter the ueterus flap you will fill some pressure like it has come to a dead end. At this point just work the tube in andout genderly while aslo twisting the tube and you will enter the flap and that is all the futher you need to go!! Then just empty the surringe of semen into the female and to empty the tube out just remove the surringe and the semen should be sucked right into the female!! Also I palpate the volva by inserting the index finger and to simulate the actions and feel like being mated naturally. This in turn causes a natural reaction to the uterus to start to contact and draw the semen in. You can watch this reaction happening by watching the females stumock contract,ease up and contract again!!

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Head over to www.thecoonden.com Joe Newlin wrote two articles on AI.

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Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Cambridge Springs, PA
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what about the premate test they seem pretty price or are there different ones out there that are a little cheeper?

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Always take Progestren tests know what the cost when AIing. if you do not take the proget test you are only gambling and most of the time will loose.

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i was going to take the test i was just wondering if there were good ones out there for a decent price

the only couple that i saw were like 10 test for 200 dollars.

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