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Ok 4 dog grand night cast, turn out and all dogs are stuck then all dogs are treed. when cast arrives 3 dogs are fighting an armadillo and the 4th dog is 50 yards away looking at you. when the handler goes and gets him, he notices blood on the 4th dogs nose. he was struck and treed with the other 3 dogs, Is he scratched?

For those of you who say scratch, If it had been a coon, would he get any plus points? No, then how can you scratch him?

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NO HE IS NOT SCRATCHED

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Not scratched just minused both ways the other 3 are out the door

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How did they know the 4th dog had blood on his nose if he was 50 yards away? He was still carrying his strike points and at 50 yards, no one can say he has come into the cast so you can't handle him. Who can see a bloody nose at 50 yards? And there are 100 different ways a dog can bloody his nose without ever touching another animal. And why would you minus his strike points mrbluedog? Must be more to the story.

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How did they know the 4th dog had blood on his nose if he was 50 yards away? He was still carrying his strike points and at 50 yards, no one can say he has come into the cast so you can't handle him. Who can see a bloody nose at 50 yards? And there are 100 different ways a dog can bloody his nose without ever touching another animal. And why would you minus his strike points mrbluedog? Must be more to the story.

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well is he still carring a track if he is 50 yards standing there looking at you.

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Yes, he is still considered struck in and carrying those strike points because at 50 yards, no way you can say he has come into the cast. Check rule 4(e). You cannot minus a dog for quitting a track, you can only minus them if they come in. And I still can't see any reason why that dog was handled.

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Because the handler elected to accept minus points and call time out and move per John Boy's second post.

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since when do you not minus a dog for quiting a track .I quess it is pretty is not to get any minus points with you judging .

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Just read the rule Troy. 4(e). You can't minus for quitting, they must come into the cast.
And Bill is right, he could choose to take his minus, call his dog off the track and call timeout.

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Ok 4 dog grand night cast, turn out and all dogs are stuck then all dogs are treed. when cast arrives 3 dogs are fighting an armadillo and the 4th dog is 50 yards away looking at you. when the handler goes and gets him, he notices blood on the 4th dogs nose. he was struck and treed with the other 3 dogs, Is he scratched?

For those of you who say scratch, If it had been a coon, would he get any plus points? No, then how can you scratch him?

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1st line of 4e
when a dog quits a track and comes in he will be minused pretty plain and simple to me how do you not minus other wise every time the 8 is up everyone would just say he quit the track you can't minus him come on now lets not make the rules harder to understand then they are

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1st line of 4e
when a dog quits a track and comes in he will be minused pretty plain and simple to me how do you not minus other wise every time the 8 is up everyone would just say he quit the track you can't minus him come on now lets not make the rules harder to understand then they are

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dont forget the dog that is 50yds away was declared treed.

id have his tree points minused and let him hunt. if the 8 got him or he came in, he would be minused.

if there was a coon caught there, he wouldnt be receiving plus points on his track. he is not showing the end of the trail like the other dogs.


sounds like the dog knew he did bad and was trying to sneak away as the handler came in...ive seen it..they either go hunting, or they dont after that. ive never seen them come back and do wrong infront of the handler after they got close though...

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dont forget the dog that is 50yds away was declared treed.

id have his tree points minused and let him hunt. if the 8 got him or he came in, he would be minused.

if there was a coon caught there, he wouldnt be receiving plus points on his track. he is not showing the end of the trail like the other dogs.


sounds like the dog knew he did bad and was trying to sneak away as the handler came in...ive seen it..they either go hunting, or they dont after that. ive never seen them come back and do wrong infront of the handler after they got close though...

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this might be why the 1 dog hunts are better.
if you were pleasure hunting would you whip his
azz?yes he ran off game and was decalred treed
at no time on the way in was he declared split treed.

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this might be why the 1 dog hunts are better.
if you were pleasure hunting would you whip his
azz?yes he ran off game and was decalred treed
at no time on the way in was he declared split treed.

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now we got to see them,so if a dog moves from tree to tree
we got to see him.lol its all a judgement call none of us were
there.50 yds is a chip shot,so if they were 50 away all baing
you know how my vote is going.

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now we got to see them,so if a dog moves from tree to tree
we got to see him.lol its all a judgement call none of us were
there.50 yds is a chip shot,so if they were 50 away all baing
you know how my vote is going.

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4 dogs bay a coon,1 kills it runs off with it.how many
do you + when you SEE the coon?

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4 dogs bay a coon,1 kills it runs off with it.how many
do you + when you SEE the coon?

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If everyone would except what there dogs do and take the points they deserve you would see alot better coondogs.I judge mine the same if we are at a hunt or just pleasure hunting and a dog that is just standing there looking at me is not running a track if so I don't want none of its blood cause you talk about standing on its head and not able to move a track.I DO AGREE IT WAS SCORED CORRECT

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All I'm saying is a slick handler ( thats the name For them on here ) would of and should of started the eight rather than excepting the minus. But I agree it was scored right!!!!

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