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RedMan
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Jumping, jacking, running up....

the tree, whatever you want to call it, can it be stopped? I have a female that is six years old and probably has been doing it long enough it cant be cured. When she trees she gets so excited and wants that coon so bad she will start out by just standing on the tree, then go to jumping up constantly on the tree, then start circling the tree all the while jumping up and down on it. When I first see her she is treeing hind feet on the ground front feet on the tree like she is supposed to but when I get close is when she seems to go wild on the tree. I havent had her very long and really didnt notice it the first time or two out but have started paying attention to it since. She's nothing more than a big baby all the time. Quiet in the pen, could care less who gets fed first dont even bark at feeding time for that matter, heck even when my male pup gets on her trying to hump (before I finally got that one solved) she would just move around and around till he finally got tired of trying...I was at least hoping she would snap him one time. She handles perfect, call for her and she comes and hits the ground at my feet, get her out at night and dont even use a leash, just open the door and she goes straight for the dogbox every time, gets in and stays till she is told to "get'em" so to speak. She just gets wild at the tree. The only thing I could think of was tying her as close and somewhat tight to the bottom of the tree as I could but have not tried yet. What would yall suggest?

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from my experience, this is just like chewing.....its in the bloodlines, and to break them, u would just about have to break them from treeing........I got a female that does this too, and I just tie her back where she cant jack the tree.......her bein a six year old, I dont think theres much u can do, imo.......now, if thats the only fault she has.....what do ya want for her? lol....

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Take a bungee cord about 2' long, fasten a snap on both ends......Whe she is treed, screw an eye bolt at the base of the tree and tie her up with the bungee......Stand back and watch

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Doug Robinson
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Who has time to screw an eyebolt in the tree. All of mine will hop or jump occasionally at the tree some, never had any problems. Since she is a hard tree dog don't encourage her or tap on the tree, many times that will encourage jumping. I believe it is a lot genetic but you can work on it so she knows what to expect when you come into the tree. You said she is real mild mannered, at six she knows what 's next when you get to the tree, so she gets extra excited thus jumps and circles. I snap a lead on them, keep one end in your hand, step on the lead so she can stand at the tree but when she try's to jump it will not allow her to. Let her tree a bit, until she has tried to jump and realizes she gets jerked. Then after she has settled and doesn't try to jump take and tie her back not allowing her to jump. Do this for a couple weeks, be consistent and see if it works. More times than not it will not, but give it a shot.

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RedMan
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I kinda figured....

there wasnt much I could do for her but I thought I'd ask anyways. I thought by snapping both ends of the lead to her and around the tree she wouldnt be able to jack around as much, kind of the same principle as standing on one end of the lead. It doesnt really matter since I hunt by myself or at least my dogs by themselves (lil bro goes occasionally) 99.9% of the time.

Blue Style its sort of ironic that you'd be the one asking how much after all she is a blue gal. I just got her about four months ago and she is extremely accurate...it was just me getting use to a chop mouth dog on track. But on a good note she does have a real nice but short series of locate bawls before she settles down to a steady chop on the tree. Oh yeah she does chew a little but I've only seen this a very few times, really not enough to make mention. I'll just tell you though, she has really got me back into hunting probably harder and more than ever...she has put the pleasure back in the hunt for me. My other dog on the other hand is very close to coming down with a servere case of lead poisoning. lol

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It is very difficult to completely change a dog's tree style. They get that genetically.

You can make a dog more radical by too much petting and encouragement at the tree, especially if they are hard tree dogs to begin with.

I always tie the dogs back first thing when I get to the tree, so even though my female is a little too radical, I don't have any problems.

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I have never met you but I have read many , many of your posts and it is as if I am reading exactly what I would write. You and I think almost exactly the same when it comes to dogs and training. Just curious as to where you are from and what breed of dogs you hunt.

Good Luck.

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Doug, I was raised in the Ozarks of northeastern Oklahoma, exactly where the book "Where the Red Fern Grows" was written about.

I now live in north-central Kansas, northeast of Salina.

I hunt mostly Uchtman bred Blueticks. I like the Ranger and Albert lines the best.

I'd say maybe we could go hunting together some time, but it is a long way to New York for a country boy like me.

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Get a room, guys.......

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I dont see this as a problem as much as other people as they think it will cause a fight [only one thing causes a fight ].Somebody probably hung up coon to this dog just out of reach to make her tree harder and this will usually cause them to run the tree.I have seen some dogs run or chew the tree in hot weather but tree fine in the fall.AS far as breaking them the old fashioned method[hand or switch]I have used.A good tree dog can take it,if not you will have to live with it.Have an older female that will do anything she can to climb the tree,hates a coon,cant break her just have to live with it.

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