Registered: Oct 2007
Location: Canada
Posts: 21

Just for the fun, how many think that a dog's voice has anything to do with their sucess in treeing bear? I know that voice won"t tree the rough bear or make a solid bear pack. I once had fast cold nosed walker with a long roaring bawl mouth. This dog lacked grit when things got rough but treed a lot of bears all by him self. Terry

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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Roosevelt, Utah
Posts: 586

I don't know whether voice has anything to do with treeing bears but attitude and maturity certainly does. As we all know, some bears stay on the ground and try to imtimidate the hounds. If the bear's (his/she) efforts work then the bear has won and the dogs are in for a long day following the bear around. Personally, I believe a hound with the right presents makes all the difference in the world on how soon that bear climbs. I also believe a pack of older dogs (say five to nine years old) have more experience and presents with a bear and he knows it............


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This old blue Ryan dog of mine is now eleven years old and never missed a bear tree since he was a pup--he took to bears like bees take to honey. When he sticks a bear that bear is in for a long day unless it climbs, and would stay gone on one for two or three days after the jump.

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Registered: May 2008
Location: Strong, ME
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I agree with Ike,what matters most is the way the dogs work the bear.That being said i have a male redtick that has a booming mouth on him when he bays and i have often thought that if he was baying me i would climb a tree just to get away from him for a little peace.Never could realy prove that it works that way on bears.

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Registered: Oct 2007
Location: Canada
Posts: 21

Thanks for the replies guys, I guess what I was thinking is that a particular kind of voice comming up behind might cause more bears to panic and climb though this would not work on dog wise bears. Terry

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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: vt
Posts: 1256

a buddy of mine had a running dog / walker cross- he wasnt extra gritty -- at least didnt look it to me the times i had a chance to watch him on a bayed or walking bear - I thought he was probably less gritty than average -

he was extra fast , had a big mouth - he treed so many pop up bear -- not every bear was a pop up-- but it could happen , anywhere ,anytime , a lot of them

he treed popups in areas where bear are known to be hard to tree



wasnt unusual at all to get ten minute runs-after a jump - lots of them

- the distance he covered in ten minutes was amazing


buddy and I spent hours arguing about why he treed bear so easy and i thought , still do think , it was his speed- ive seen a few dogs that could run with him on longer runs --

never seen anything like him on the jump and that first burst of speed-

the dogs ive seen that came closest-- also treed more than their share of quick ones --



he had a great voice but seen lots of dogs with as good a voice -










lost my best dog one year and started over with a couple young dogs -


had treed 2 bear -- in two months-

they had been running one particular bear alot ,

he just wouldnt run from them--



at first it was just a roar . for hours- and each time it got less and less- they were practically bear whipped



so one day i got in there - ran at and yelled at bear- made him run-

- they caught him (or he stopped ) lol several times

i got in there and made him run again

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they still didnt tree him that day - but things sure changed from him handling them to the other way around -

nite and day difference --
those dogs went from a couple mutts to beardogs -- in one day - lol


sometimes ,

if they think they can --- they probably can -

at least it seems that way - lol

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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Roosevelt, Utah
Posts: 586

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Originally posted by ker_man
Thanks for the replies guys, I guess what I was thinking is that a particular kind of voice comming up behind might cause more bears to panic and climb though this would not work on dog wise bears. Terry

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