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Hello everyone! July article is ready for download. It has some cool picture of Olympic National Park, plus a new addition to the kennel!

The new website is in beta testing and we are busy working out the kinks. Very SOON!

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Some nice pictures in your July issue.

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Randy,

ive read all your articles, makes for an interesting read. just had one question for you in your article a couple of months back. you stated you heard numerous competion hunters openly admit they prefer a rough dog. what is your definition of numerous. i know some that will hunt a rough dog, but i dont think i ever met one that would openly admit it. thanks rance

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They didn't come out and say they wanted a dog that would clear a tree, just things like, "if a dog starts something at the tree, my dog will finish it!" Stuff like that. I hear it all the time. In my mind, even if they don't start it, if they are involved, they are rough.

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Randy,

here was the quote that i was asking about. i know most want their dogs to stay, but the term rough is pretty harsh. a rough dog is a problem dog and i dont really know any that are serious competition hunters that prefer a rough/problem dog, especially ones that will openly admit it. im sure some do, and im sure more would live with it if it was a big enough winner, ive just never heard someone say the words, they prefer a rough dog. if there is so many rough dogs out there, there would be fights all the time.

a dog that stands its ground and tries to take some fang pressure is not a rough dog.

"Over these last three years I have heard from numerous competition hunters that they actually prefer a dog on the rough side. They say that their dogs need to be rough because the dogs they compete against are rough."

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That's my point, I think a rough dog is one that stands his ground and defends him or herself instead of doing all they can without resulting to aggressive behavior. I want the dog to stay, but I would rather have one get chewed on and take it than one that fights back (or stand their ground). It's just a matter of my definition of a rough dog and I understand most don't consider a dog like you describe as rough, but I do.

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That's my point, I think a rough dog is one that stands his ground and defends him or herself instead of doing all they can without resulting to aggressive behavior. I want the dog to stay, but I would rather have one get chewed on and take it than one that fights back (or stand their ground). It's just a matter of my definition of a rough dog and I understand most don't consider a dog like you describe as rough, but I do.

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No, I wouldn't like one to Yay yaw back, I've had them and they've moved on. I think if they get yaw yawed, they should just move over, or to the other side of the tree, or back up and sit down and tree. My definition of rough is probably not the mainstream, maybe I should have said what I will accept.

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randy,

what each man accepts is going to be different, i just respectfully disagreed that numerous coon hunters openly prefer a rough dog. maybe if i lived in the panhandle i would think different, but i dont see where rough dogs are a major problem in the hunts.

like i said, there will be situations where a dog cant move around a tree and it might end up back off the tree ultimately, but most dogs that are worth their salt are atleast going to try to hang in there for a bit until it just gets too rough and these dogs are not rough and they are not problems whatsoever.

im just not sure the dog you are looking for is one you or anyone else can repeadily replicate time and time again in the breeding pen. but ofcourse its going to be a big endeavor to succed on your own where you state a collective breed has failed for the past 30 years.

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If a dog reaches over and grabs mine, I fully expect mine to sling some ivory back. Thats not rough, thats called self defense.

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Dogs have no concept of self defense. They either fight or flee. There is no inbetween with dogs. They fight or they flee.

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JiM is exactly right, dogs dont have pride or ego.

Plain and simple, a dog that fights is a fighter, dosent matter why.

No one hunts a rough dog, but everyone has a dog that will fight back if provoked....yea right.

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Yeah , plenty of guys want rough dogs .... more of them have rough dogs and don't want to admit it .

I've seen a few dogs that would look straight up and let dogs hang on them , but not many .

Randy , nice couple articles .... you should have an interesting fall/spring season and I'm sure looking forward to reading about your new pups .

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KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK RANDY ITS INTERESTING. COUPLE BOTTLES OF BLACK DYE AND YOU WILL HAVE THE BLACK DOGS YOUR LOOKIN FOR LOL.

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Thanks guys.

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