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Ray Walburn
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rat attack dogs

Can anyone give me info on how thw ole rat attack dog would tree? Any tell me some of his traits.,, like how did he act towards people, dogs .track mouth bawl or chop, Thanks

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rat dog

the rat dog I had was about 60 a minute on track and 80 a minute on tree with no locate hard to call. She was loud tho

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GA DAWG
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Mine runs with a squall bawl.Trees with a few screaming, sounds like shes dying locates and rolls it over to about 120 a min on tree...Pretty loud to.Shes kinda timid around people she dont know..Never a peep in the pen.Comes when I call her.Easiest to train I ever had..As far as rat.I dont know how he was.

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Ray Walburn
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rat dogs

Well that sounds like him . He is not quite in the pen (my fault squirrels are fun ) .he is somtimes sreaming on the tree more so than a big chop .But he SCREAMS on track a BIG ole bawl . LOUD LOUD (ask our police ). Still would like some input And Thanks

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...........hunted with several that were "tree happy".....saw a lot of wood.....not much meat...........one that IS NOT.......Rat Trap, from WVA...............VERY nice hound!!!!

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Got a grandpup off Rat. He is tight on track and SCREAMS on tree. Not tree happy at all will only tree if its a COON. No trash problems and he's almost 5. Super quiet around the house. He actually stays inside never any problem with him.

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the rat dog I had I could not call in the hunts. She was 70 barks on track and 80 on the tree with no locate . I sold her back to the guy I bought her off of. He has a guy that handles his dogs and for awhile she was leading the state for females in PKC. I think she's probably still in the top 5. I couldn't even win a cast with her. I'm a heck of a handler! What to you think? NOT NOT and she,s a true daughter to rat attack

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Ray Walburn
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rat attack

This all sounds goodI really like the input .It will help me understand this dog .He has not showed me alot of wood , We see the coons ,but we cant stick/ be first tree yet !I feel real good about him quick learner only 1 year .Just some thing I cant figure ,hard to call treed. keep the input comin I figure somthin out Thanks everybody you been a Big help

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Ray Walburn
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hunt tonight

well tonight ole boy done real good .made two drops a midnight . treed two coon Will have pics tommrow ! hunted a hunt test also not bad but they put me in a spot no coon and by the road. The HillbillyMac dog done good but he was in my huntin spot (coons) anyway Lol Lol How about those Rat Attack dogs you got to love them Mine stayed on the tree both times tonight .Thanks for the input

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Gary E Redfern
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Keep hunting your Rat dog he ll get better. I have 1 that when I first got her was really hard to call, chop and squall on the ground, used way to much mouth on track but was a 120 bark treedog with no locate. the more I hunted her the better she got, not as much mouth on track, has a good locate now and still barks 120 on the tree with the meat. She is 1 win from Grand Nt. goes as far as she has to go to find a coon. The other Rat female is a UKC Dual Gr Nt Ch with $1600 PKC not as much mouth on track bawl, squall,chop but a nice steady treedog. both dogs are action packed. Hope this helps

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mike shannon
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hillbilly mac dogs

NO there was plenty of coons!!! Hangover struck out of the box 2 miles from where you dropped. But i figured out that the car that passed us going the other way had run over a coon about a week ago and Hangover was winding the scent off the car. Hillbilly Mac power. But seriously your dog done well. If there was no coons in those woods somebody must of hunted there with a Hillbilly Mac dog. LOL. My dog is a conservationist he does not pose a threat to the coon population. LOL He He Ha Ha

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Ray Walburn
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bawl /chop

I agree with you Gary he has to much on the ground .I thought he was pulling from treein BUT . He has done better I have got closer to watch I belive I called treed when he was still locating (check tree move out 10 feet check tree with bawl chop check out 20 feet so on so on) When he does fall treeed its a big bawl long howl chop chop chop and somtime you hear that howl while hes checkin Does this sound f fimilar ?? Thanks Gary We treed two last night stayed at tree treed 2 tonight stayed at tree . He has handler ISSUES

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pedigree

I was lookin on his papers 16 dogs 14 are gr night champs 1 way back pr" and mom was a "pr" she might be a night champ now. But there is NO HILLBILLY IN THERE LOL. But I would breed to a hillbilly female just to help that bloodline out lol (Mike Shannon)

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LOL

I will breed Hangover to HIM!! Hillbilly Mac dogs are aggressive breeders and it will put real live coon treeing instinct in them LOL

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I had a female out of rat that I made nitech and put 1 win toward grand on her before I sold her. Hated her!! Chop mouth both ways horrible locate and was 50-60% accurate 120bpm treedog.

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it will take us 20 years to recover from what Rat has done to the walker breed and probably another 10 or 15 to get over all these Trackman pups.

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I had a female out of rat that I made nitech and put 1 win toward grand on her before I sold her. Hated her!! Chop mouth both ways horrible locate and was 50-60% accurate 120bpm treedog.


you asked about Rat dogs? this is what should be listed in the dictionary as the definition of a Rat Attack dog.

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Most rat dogs i have hunted with had these characteristics..Although, dont get me wrong I have seen some very nice Rat dogs, just very few and far between.

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What about Sackett, Night Heat andSkeans Dolly dogs how do you like them?

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reddog, just keep hunting him by himself as much as you can, makes him a better trackdog and not in a big hurry to get treed, and dont feed him very many coons or he my want to go tree crazy. the better the track dog the more accurate he will be.

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Lots of people complain about them and put em down.His pups have won over a MILLION dollars in PKC he will be the #1 historical producer in UKC..Now where is all those coondogs at? Must not be hunting in the hunts to beat these Rat dogs lol!!!!!!!

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What about Sackett, Night Heat andSkeans Dolly dogs how do you like them?


sackett jr dogs seemed to have alot better sense. talk to Buzz he will even say that Rat and his pups are nothing like Sackett Jr dogs.

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Gary E Redfern
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I just asked how you liked them, the pups being hunted out of Rat have a bottom side that has a lot to do with how they turn out. Good and Bad

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Rat Attack dogs -


Face barking, fighting, senseless, slicktreeing idiots.























but hey, they tree hard and stay no matter what and win lots of hunts. That's what matters right?

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Rat is a Sackett Jr dog. there are crosses on Rat that worked better than others, Thank God I have 1 of them maybe 2.

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