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mudman
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Cage coons ????????

will it ruin a pup to see one cage coon by sight at 4 months old

a friend says iam ruining him by showing him a cage coon he has only seen one and she swears i will ruin him by showing him JUST ONE cage coon

and if you show a pup a cage coon will they they become sight dependant

Is this true

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I've always shown mine cage coon and they seem to turn out alright. If a dog is going to be a hunter there isn't much you can do to change it. Letting them have a chance to get excited about the game they are going to hunt shouldn't hurt them any. Just don't bore them with it.

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hey chris...i have never showed one under 6 months old a caged coon...but i know i have showed 6 month old pups caged coons and they turn out just fine...just one want hurt him...dont over work him on it...let him see it for about 5-10 mins put it up and put him up and dont show him another one till around 6-7 months old

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8 weeks old




4 years old, he's the one on the tree not the fool jumping around.

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thanks guys

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thanks guys




Thanks for your help any ways. I let chosen know.

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some do, some dont. i showed my dog one caged coon.

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I wouldn't show one to a 4 month old pup. You can certainly ruin a dog with too many cage coon, but 1 or 2 when they're ready to start hunting, at maybe 9 or 10 months old is a good way to start. It'll also tell you if they're ready to start yet. If they dont fire up, put them away for 2 months and try 1 again. I honestly feel that they should never see a caged coon again after they're running and treeing. Also, 2 to 3 maximum in theur life suits me, more than that and you're opening a can of worms.

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It's more about how the dog reacts to the coon than the simple act of showing the coon to dog. Some dogs at 4 months would go crazy and try to get the coon, and some would get so scared that they would never want to have any thing else to do with a coon. That's how you break a dog-- they won't run trash because they are scared of the punishment. I personally don't see any advantage to showing caged coons to dogs.

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If I will I have sure ruined a bunch of em.



I hardly ever hunt a pup with other dogs untill it can run and tree its own coon on a consistent basis. I start every one of them on live trapped coon and release coon.

4 months or 10 months doesnt matter as long as you dont force them to work it. Let them decide when there big enough, and keep them from getting mauled and you wont have any problems.

I have a bunch of live traps and just take the pup for a walk. If he notices a coon in one of the traps, I turn it loose and see if they can tree it. If they dont notice or act like there scared of it, I come back later and turn the coon (s) back loose.


Now showing one hung in a tree (treeing contests, water races, ext.) bunchs of times is a different story and they WILL tree by site alone before long.

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is this ruining him

his first coon he ever seen sat 4 months old

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Cage coon

Mudman,

I would be careful with showin him to many coon so young...

Just my opinion...

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Re: Cage coon

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Mudman,

I would be careful with showin him to many coon so young...

Just my opinion...

that was his First coon he ever seen i will not show him another coon untill he is 8-10 months old

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Thats a natural.keep us posted on how hes doin?

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Thats a natural. hows he doin?

he will run and tree his own house cat no help and he is running 200-300 yard drags scent alone thats all i havent worked him much he is the Most natural pup ive seen or had

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caged coon

like my fellow said earlier that dog is a natural i dont think showing them a caged coon will effect them that much espeically the way that dog is raisin cane at that coon

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folks if it wasnt for Bill Hanna i wouldnt have this pup it was his idea of makeing this cross and from what i hear every pup is doing the same the sire and dam is

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I thought you were just screwing around but I personally won't show a 4 month old pup a live coon.

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