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Well we have heard a lot of coments about behaviors in dogs but i was wondering why dogs do what they do. Some one said you cant get into dogs head so therefore you dont know why they do what they do some time.

My friend in Fla told me he was on a Bear hunt in Newburn NC one time with a man that had some plot and some Airdale mixed dogs , the dogs bayed a big black bear and fought him in some cain breaks untill he bayed and they went into the dogs .

The man that owned the dogs told my friend when he went to catch one of the dogs to make sure he got ahold of the dog quick because the dogs where so mad and stirred up about the bear that they might make a mistake and bite him bye accident.

that being said , can it be that some dogs just do what they do out of shear exitment and confusion at the time and moment that somthing drastic happens ?

some times dogs will pick up the back end of a track and run it just as hard backwards as they did forwards . why ?

For the sake of not offending some one i will just say some hounds are just mentally Challenged .

What do yawl think

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I think I agree. lol
Backtrackers are mentally challenged and that is one trait I will not put up with in a hound.

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what about face barking and gnawing,wouldent that be a Mental Handycap as well , or is it just pure excitment ?

I seen dogs turned alose on coons that where seen crossing the road and the old pros that know how to run a coon look like "Blithering idiots " that is being kind lol

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A little off the topic, but still something I wonder about as far as my dog's psychology....

Why does he bury every bone or toy I give him to fool with, but play with his food pan? He eats all of his food, and then bays the pan for the rest of the day. He noses it around, and sometimes picks it up and throws it in his doghouse, then acts like he's rather aggressively baying something.

It's rather amusing to watch sometimes, but annoying at others. I've tried to give him those GIANT basted bones as a quiet alternative, but he just buries them, no matter how big they are, and heads for the food pan. He eats well and gets plenty of exercise, so I just can't figure him out.

I also find it rather amusing how he creates his own toilets by digging deep holes and pooping in them.

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is smart they learn through recall memorey the better memorey a dog has the easer it is to train that mean aney breed

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For you to say no dog is smart you havent been around enough smart ones. Or you dont pay enough attention.

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For you to say no dog is smart you havent been around enough smart ones. Or you dont pay enough attention.

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I think some dogs may be challenged. Sometimes what they do is instinct, burying their bones stemed from when they hid their food to prevent other animals from getting it and they could go back and retrieve it later. They like to play and have a good time and have fund with their toys as do other animals (and children).

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I think a lot of behavior is inherited, as weird as the behavior may be. You hear about certain traits being pretty consistent in certain lines of dogs... fighting, barking in the kennel, back tracking, etc. I think it's just like dogs taking after their ancestors in their hunting range, tree style, track speed, mouth, and all that stuff. The good comes with the bad and the weird with the normal.

I read in one of my Walk With Wick books that Mr. Wick had a puppy that every time he fed him, he would gently and deliberately paw the food out of his pan and eat it off the ground. Mr. Wick had also owned this dog's grandmother and great grandmother, and although the pup had never met either, they both did the same thing as well. I thought that was pretty interesting. Of course some behavior can be learned, but I think a lot of it is bred into a dog. JMO

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is smart they learn through recall memorey the better memorey a dog has the easer it is to train that mean aney breed

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i asure you no dog is smart,,,it is that some dogs have better recall memorey,,yes trained dogs all my life for every task there is some make it and some dont that is becals there memorey is verry low,,if ever in my neck of the woods come by for a show and see a amazing dog and it is not smart at all just a good memorey,,thats all memorey,yes the dog atays in the house ,,quincy di altobello is her name and she waits on me hand and foot,,like bring me my showes gets my pop out of frig and maney more things she has a great memorey,,if you was a dog trainer you would know that,,david,,ps,,,my hardest part is training the trainer not the dog,david,,,quincy is a europen doberman,,,,,,,

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i asure you no dog is smart,,,it is that some dogs have better recall memorey,,yes trained dogs all my life for every task there is some make it and some dont that is becals there memorey is verry low,,if ever in my neck of the woods come by for a show and see a amazing dog and it is not smart at all just a good memorey,,thats all memorey,yes the dog atays in the house ,,quincy di altobello is her name and she waits on me hand and foot,,like bring me my showes gets my pop out of frig and maney more things she has a great memorey,,if you was a dog trainer you would know that,,david,,ps,,,my hardest part is training the trainer not the dog,david,,,quincy is a europen doberman,,,,,,,

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YOU SAID ,,IF ONLEY WE COULD CULL THE DUM PEOPLE,,,IT MUST BE LEGAL HERE WHERE I LIVE,,THEY FIND A FEW EACH WEEK HEAD SHOOT OR THROWEN TO THE DEATH OVER CLIFFS AND NO ONE LATLEY HAS BEEN ARESTED HERE IN MY COUNTY,THAT IS 100 PERCENT TRUE,,,BUT I KNOW IT IS NOT LEGAL THAT IS WHY I DONT DO IT,,HAPPY HUNTTING,,DAVID,,PS,,TRAIN THE PERSON FIRST AND THEN DOG TRAINING IS MUCH EASER,,,,THE DOG TRAINERS IN EUROP ALWASY TOLD ME THAT AND IT IS VERRY TRUE

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I would not sum everything up to memory.All of the really smart hounds I have owned have been escape artists.I had two different females that were very hard to keep in a pen or on a chain.One female I had several years ago would stick her nose through 2X4'' dog pen wire and twist her head back and forth until she worked a hole in the wire big enough to crawl though.
She also could undo the snap on a dog chain.I never did figure out how she done that.You could go hook her to the chain and she would beat you back to the house.She never would do it while I was watching.
The other female,which I owned more recently,was always looking for a way out.It wasn't that she kept doing the same thing over and over,she kept coming up with new plans.
She figured out how to open her kennel door,so I had to keep a dog snap on it.Any time I opened the door to clean her pen,or feed or whatever,she would always check the door to see if it would open after I was done just in case I forgot to put the snap back on.
The point is,both of the females learned how to do things on their own without being trained,or taught to do them.
Interestingly enough,I raised 3 litters of pups out of the second female,none of them were ever the escape artist she was,but several of them did figure out how to open the kennel door the same way she did it.
I have a male here now that is smart,but would sum it up more to memory than learning.He will do about anything you teach him to,but he aint the type to think up stuff on his own.
I can hunt him with anything,but if a dog jumps on him he will finish it,the funny thing is he never forgets the dog afterwards.
If a dog jumps on him you won't be able to hunt him with that dog anymore because as soon as he sees it he will start growling.

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some dogs are very smart in comparison to other dogs. But no dog is really "smart". Unless you think smart is drinking pee from a toilet and getting your mama pregnant ........

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some dogs are very smart in comparison to other dogs. But no dog is really "smart". Unless you think smart is drinking pee from a toilet and getting your mama pregnant ........

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I think for sure some dogs are smarter than others just like people. old luie is not a hound and dosent act like a hound, but hes got more sence in many ways , i agree the memory part plays into it because i have opend my back door many times and luie is most of the time standing there when i do but after scolding him about sticking his head in or trying to come in just once or twice he only dances around on his hind legs begging to go hunting or just wanting me to come out to play

Some one said somthing about the dog chewing on the bowl, well thats easy , dogs are just like us in some ways , they get board and need intertainment and you have to know they enjoy somthings more than others.
some of us like diffrent things as well and naturaly the dog is going to find sothing to entertain himself and if he enjoys it he will do it over and over

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I was wondering , does it seem like the Chop on track dogs seem to be more prone to Babbling than say a Bawl mouthed dog ?

It takes more concetration to bawl than to chop id say

what do yawl think ? im just wondering is there a pattern ?

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Well I better add a couple things. First pretty much every thing thats been said can be applied to humans. What makes a person smart? It is our ability to learn, to recall, and to use those past expeirences to guide us in decisons. Much of wich is genetic, but also must be developed. I see the same things in dogs. When in comes down to it the only reason we dont drink from the toilet is because weve learned that we shouldnt and that the water from the faucet is better. If we hadnt learned that the faucet was there we might very well drink from the toilet when we were thirsty. Even if we did know if we didnt have hands we still might find it easier to drink from the toilet. And as a side note I met someone once who peed in their own water bottle when camping because they were too lazy to get out of the tent. It didnt bother him at all to drink from it. Anyway the point I really want to make is that when we say a person is smart, for the most part we are seeing the same qualities that you say make it impossible for a dog to be smart. The most important part of intelligence is the ability to learn, and apply what has been learned to something new. If dogs didnt have that ablilty to a degree they would never improve beyond what weve taught them or do things that they had never seen done. A pup will never get better than the old dog they hunt with without the ablilty to learn on their own.

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