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4 DOGGS TREEING 1 DOG LEAVES BIG RED OAK TREE WITH LOTS OF VINES AND A SQUARREL NEST. TWO CAST MEMBERS VOT TO MINUS TREE 2 VOT TO CIRCLE . WHAT IS THE FINAL CALL TO BE MADE? TREE DELEATED?

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The tree shoud be scored the way the judge of this cast scores it,with the option to be ?'ed by the other handlers,if ?'ed take back to MOH for a decision by him.This is a judgement call.We all know how the MOH will rule here.If 2 againt 2 MOH will go with judge,if 3 to 1 majority rules.Even if the 1 is the judge!!!The tree should not be deleted it should be scored!!

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Originally posted by Dogwhisper
The tree shoud be scored the way the judge of this cast scores it,with the option to be ?'ed by the other handlers,if ?'ed take back to MOH for a decision by him.This is a judgement call.We all know how the MOH will rule here.If 2 againt 2 MOH will go with judge,if 3 to 1 majority rules.Even if the 1 is the judge!!!

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Originally posted by Dogwhisper
The tree shoud be scored the way the judge of this cast scores it,with the option to be ?'ed by the other handlers,if ?'ed take back to MOH for a decision by him.This is a judgement call.We all know how the MOH will rule here.If 2 againt 2 MOH will go with judge,if 3 to 1 majority rules.Even if the 1 is the judge!!!The tree should not be deleted it should be scored!!

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The tree should be circled. Tree can't be plussed or minused unless you have a majority vote.

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It is amazing how many believe a judges vote is worth more when scoring a tree.

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if tie vote....... delete.......

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Is there, in fact, any situation where it is permitted to delete a tree, other than returning to previously scored tree, under UKC rules?

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Is there, in fact, any situation where it is permitted to delete a tree, other than returning to previously scored tree, under UKC rules?

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That's why those rules are printed on the back of the card guys. Under #17 general information rule #4 states go with judge when vote is two and two. The other hunters reserve the right to still question the call, but it is put on the card for what the judge decides.

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knew id throw a kink posting delete... and yes,mark it is judges scored and place a quetion........ see rule 18 paragraph 4....

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That's why those rules are printed on the back of the card guys. Under #17 general information rule #4 states go with judge when vote is two and two.

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No wonder everone is always getting cheated...

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Rock and Roll, that rule applies to every situation EXCEPT:
Scoring a tree
Calling timeout
Checking to see if dogs have
returned to a previously scored
tree.

Scoring a tree under a hunting judge is alway a cast vote with every vote, includeing the judges vote, being exactly equal. If the vote is 2-2, the tree is circled.

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its funny how one set of rules differ by region!!lol

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Originally posted by Josh Howard
The tree should be circled. Tree can't be plussed or minused unless you have a majority vote.

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Originally posted by JiM
Rock and Roll, that rule applies to every situation EXCEPT:
Scoring a tree
Calling timeout
Checking to see if dogs have
returned to a previously scored
tree.

Scoring a tree under a hunting judge is alway a cast vote with every vote, includeing the judges vote, being exactly equal. If the vote is 2-2, the tree is circled.

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look at the coonhoud advisor (june 2005) "to minus or circle".

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Originally posted by josh
No wonder everone is always getting cheated...

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josh
how did you come by that pic of sheepster on his computer? LOL

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I kinda miss that guy......well, not really...

Rock and roll,

No sir, I wasnt calling you a cheat at all..

It just seems people being cheated tend to be the same ones that dont understand the rules very well.

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