Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Indiana
Posts: 793

I would like to get UKC's official ruling on this situation. At the UKC World Hunt a few years ago, I was prepared to take every step possible to find the coon when my dog treed. I had what I thought was a unique idea of taking along a laser pointer to the woods and was beginning to string it around me neck with my squaller. I was told by one of the UKC Field Reps that if I used the laser pointer in the woods, I would be scratched.

Well, as you could guess, it stayed in the truck and never made it to the woods.

I really don't see any harm in using a laser pointer. I've been involved in many casts where some of the cast members could not honestly see the coon that other members were trying to show them because they were simply looking at the wrong place in the tree.

I think by shining a laser pointer at the exact "spot" where you think you see the coon, would allow other hunters to look "exactly" where you are trying to show them the coon. It could also eliminate problems from the dishonest people who "refuse" to see a coon on occasion. If you have the laser pointer right on the coons eyes, body, tail, etc., it becomes really hard for someone to claim they can't see the coon.

Laser pointers are not expensive and therefore wouldn't be considered a disadvantage for other hunters that didn't have one. They are cheaper than a coon squaller.

So, is it permissable to use a laser pointer in efforts to try to show the judge or other cast members a coon? This would especially be good at hunts like the World Hunt where non-hunting judges are involved. Shouldn't the handler be allowed to make every effort to show the coon to the judge? After all, if it's there, the dog should get credit?!

Thanks

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Fishers, IN

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Home of "PKC CH UKC CH GR NITE CH HOLDING'S NORTHERN ROCKET (2001 B&T Days King of Hunt, 2001 UKC World Championship High Scoring Black & Tan, 2003 Purina Coonhound of the Year Breed Winner, and 2006 AKC World Champion Black & Tan)

Home of PKC CH GRCH GRNITECH BLACK IRON STRIKE - co-owned w/Darrell Bodkin

Home of GRCH GRNITECH BLACK JOLENE - co-owned with Darrell Bodkin

Home of NT CH Rocket's Little Witch - co-owned with Paul Bennett

Home of NTCH Black River Boots - co-owned with Derrick Bridge

Past Home of GRNITECH THE JOKER - now owned by Darrell Bodkin

Home of CH GR NITE CH ROCKET'S DEADLY LITTLE DIXIE (2007 AKC World Champion Black & Tan)

Home of PKC CH, UKC GRNITECH FUEL'S WICKED WITCH

Home of GRNITECH WHITE'S BLACK RIVER BONES - co-owned w/Darrell Bodkin

Past Home of GRNITE CH Ozark's Smokin' Fizz - Owned BY Don Martin

Past Home of NATIONAL GR NITE CH BLACK & TAN - CH GR NITE CH HOLDING'S ROCKET FUEL (2006 National Grand Nite Champion of Breed, 2006 UKC World Coonhound Championship High Scoring Black & Tan; 2006 Georgia State Champion; 2007 UKC World Coonhound Championship High Scoring Black & Tan)

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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Kalamazoo, Mich.
Posts: 6113

Well Alan, when you pick up your copy of the new Advisor book which will be available at A.O. for the first time, you will see in the Index a sub-heading for Scoring Aids. Under that heading you will see "Laser Pointers". On page 44 entitled "Let There Be Light, Very Bright Light" you will find the Advisor column which I wrote in November of '98 that allowed the use of laser pointers.

This new book is cool!

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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Indiana
Posts: 793

Todd,

Well, you can bet that I will be getting the laser pointer out for the hunts now!! Thanks for the clarification.

By the way, I heard that if you are a new subscriber to Coonhound Bloodlines or renew your subscription, you are entitled to an advisor book free.

Is this correct? If so, will there be people at Autumn Oaks to take renewals, etc.?

Thanks

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Alan R. Holding
Fishers, IN

"Champions don't become champions in the winner's circle, they are merely recognized there!"

Home of "PKC CH UKC CH GR NITE CH HOLDING'S NORTHERN ROCKET (2001 B&T Days King of Hunt, 2001 UKC World Championship High Scoring Black & Tan, 2003 Purina Coonhound of the Year Breed Winner, and 2006 AKC World Champion Black & Tan)

Home of PKC CH GRCH GRNITECH BLACK IRON STRIKE - co-owned w/Darrell Bodkin

Home of GRCH GRNITECH BLACK JOLENE - co-owned with Darrell Bodkin

Home of NT CH Rocket's Little Witch - co-owned with Paul Bennett

Home of NTCH Black River Boots - co-owned with Derrick Bridge

Past Home of GRNITECH THE JOKER - now owned by Darrell Bodkin

Home of CH GR NITE CH ROCKET'S DEADLY LITTLE DIXIE (2007 AKC World Champion Black & Tan)

Home of PKC CH, UKC GRNITECH FUEL'S WICKED WITCH

Home of GRNITECH WHITE'S BLACK RIVER BONES - co-owned w/Darrell Bodkin

Past Home of GRNITE CH Ozark's Smokin' Fizz - Owned BY Don Martin

Past Home of NATIONAL GR NITE CH BLACK & TAN - CH GR NITE CH HOLDING'S ROCKET FUEL (2006 National Grand Nite Champion of Breed, 2006 UKC World Coonhound Championship High Scoring Black & Tan; 2006 Georgia State Champion; 2007 UKC World Coonhound Championship High Scoring Black & Tan)

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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Kalamazoo, MI
Posts: 568

taking subscriptions and renewals and yes the book is FREE if you renew.

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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 2147

So why did you stay back at the truck, you don't have much of a chance sitting down.

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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Advance, MO
Posts: 77

I think he said the laser pointer stayed at the truck.

Good deal on the adviser book, and I agree a laser pointer is a good tool to find coons. The only thing is they go through batteries so fast.

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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Highlands, Texas
Posts: 816

Has anything changed on the use of laser pointers?

Still a light!

KG

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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Highlands, Texas
Posts: 816

quote:

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Originally posted by Kenny Gates
Has anything changed on the use of laser pointers?

Still a light!

KG

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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 9282

Nothing has changed Kenny. You may still use a laser pointer in the nite hunts.

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