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redneck_girl
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Silly Question, but I just have to ask...

We all know it says in the Official UKC Rule Book that a spectator in the woods on a Nite Hunt may not give his input, ideas, etc.


BUT. What about in the showring? Can a spectator stand on the sidelines and coax the handler on the placement of feet...or how to correct the stack of the dog on the bench?

Here's another question. If aggression is found in the woods, there is reprocusions for said behavior. What about in the show ring? If a hound in the show shows aggression, shouldn't he/she be removed?

What about a handler showing aggression to a hound that is having a 'wiggly' day on the bench?

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if the handlers not good enough to know where to
set his feet it should be easy pickens

2 just give him a little more dope

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I was showing one time and another male face barked at my male and he got scratched... it was a good thing because I needed the best of show to make champion....

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quote:
Originally posted by blueticking: it
if the handlers not good enough to know where to
set his feet it should be easy pickens

2 just give him a little more dope




That's just it...I know 'she' knows what she's doing. I know she's a dang good handler. While she was stacking her hound on the bench, her....'spectator' came around to that side of the showring to 'help' her. He cough, cleared his throat, spat and sputtered so much I ended up with his snot and slobbers all over my arm!!! All I could think was good Lord, don't let me smack this guy. When he walked away, some folks in the stands asked why I didn't say something to him. All I could say was, "well, consider the source".
2 UKC Reps and the BSJ looked up at him, they had to have known what he was doing, why didn't they say anything about it? Live and Learn I guess.

As for the aggresive dog. 'He' was on the bench the first time around, when that class was finished, his handler took him off the bench, and immediately he tried to get aggressive with another dog. I thought "oh, crap, he's gonna get DQ'd"....NOPE. So when that same hound was back on the bench again, he did the very same thing, and it was loud enough that people leaving the building turned to see what was going on.....RULES...who needs them?

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nadler aggression

if the hanlder is aggressive with his dog he is scrathed. the last bench sho i was at the judge qded a gentlemend for popping his female and honestly it wasnt that big of a pop.

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A dog can be scratched for fighting on the bench

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quote:
Originally posted by Autumn Clements
A dog can be scratched for fighting on the bench
I thought so too, but obviously it's WHO it is...

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If a bsj doesnt scratch a dog for fighting they can get their licenses taken away. I've seen a dog get scratched for fighting on the bench.Yes you can get scratched for being mean to your dog. I don't think they're supposed to "coach", I agree though if they need a "coach" maybe they should rethink their handling skills.

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quote:
Originally posted by redneck_girl
I thought so too, but obviously it's WHO it is...

ya true ... never seen one scratched for fighting on the bench myself, haven't seen any dogs show aggression either, but have deffinatly heard of dogs being wrote for fighting on the bench

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quote:
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A dog can be scratched for fighting on the bench


What happened, did one dog try to push the other dog off the bench? Is that called Bench Jacking?


Sorry couldn't resist.

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alot of the show people have helpers in the stands .They have a better view of the dog .not saying it is right just part of the game.

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I've seen a couple of dogs get scratched for growling at the judge when he bends down to look at their teeth. I havent seen to many that coach from the side lines but i know it happens. I have showed a few times when the handler of another dog i'm showing against is verbally praising or scolding their dog very loudly so the whole ring can hear them. To me thats going a little to far.

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