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Enigma
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Anybody just hunt anymore?

I always enjoy seeing dog boxes and try to spark a convo generally.. anymore younger folks just tell me about what won what or so on, I just would like to know about the huntin usually haha. Miss them ol b.s. stories that you knew were b.s. about a dog being found treed after 3 days and was still glued !

Just a soap box haha

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Yes. Plenty more people just hunt than competition hunt.

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Don't know if there's a thread but I just like to hear about hunting conditions around. I just moved home to the hills after some time away. Ain't many that just like good dog work around it seems, if they do we're all crippled up! Haha

Alot more more coon than there use to be for sure and less people that'll let cha hunt! Blessed with a few bigger chunks still.

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Rare to cross paths with a pleasure hunter. In my areia you take those that comp. hunt out of the equation and coon hunters are like hens teeth. At one time it was rare to take a hunt and not hear someone else’s dogs. In the last 3 years I have run into 1 other hunter and heard other hound 2 maybe 3 times. …..

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Hunters use to keep the trails beat down at the good holes and ya better beat your buddies there haha. Good memories chattin on a tail gate or treeing a couple behind em !

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After ole slant face !

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Almost 40 yrs and still just pleasure hunting.

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Pleasure Hunting

I just pleasure hunt anymore. I’m retired and hunt about 4 or 5 nights a week. Try to keep a pretty decent dog.

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Haven't trained a dog in a while and prefer to train my own, finding good pleasure stock is tough as it's ever been but a little different type type of dog that doesn't work than years past. Different dogs for different jobs.

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Still do—

This is my 68th fall of hunting for the fun and beauty of the hound work. Did Show a little and even did a little comp hunting years back but when the BS and “games” took over, I just kept hunting for the real reason I feed them -to please me and ENJOY.

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Re: Still do—

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This is my 68th fall of hunting for the fun and beauty of the hound work. Did Show a little and even did a little comp hunting years back but when the BS and “games” took over, I just kept hunting for the real reason I feed them -to please me and ENJOY.


I have always been a pleasure hunter, competition hunted in my younger days only because we did not have a training season and I wanted to hunt. Old Timer, I want to come up and hunt with you and Chance sometime in the future. I have had some health issues this fall and now am getting better, maybe next fall. Dave

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Mr Richard’s—

Come on up.

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Miss a lot of old friends calling around sundown wantin to go. Ain't much better than enjoying a sit, waitin on a good buddy to strike a track. Yall been treeing em? The deer hunters have mostly picked up so I'm getting access to some old ground with new owners. Coon loving deer corn/feeders is a blessing too !

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I enjoyed competition hunting the few times i did it but couldnt stand all the traveling and driving that it took.

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Ron Ashbaugh
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Coonhunting has to be one of the fastest dying hunting sports. Everything you need to get involved has increased in price, coon are worthless, large tracts of land are rare and hard to come by and quite frankly there are too many more interesting things to do than walk around in the dark chasing a barking dog.

There are pockets of good hunting still and people who like it enough to tolerate all the negative aspects of it, but for your average guy...why in the world would you get involved with it from scratch unless you want to compete?

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Coonhunting has to be one of the fastest dying hunting sports. Everything you need to get involved has increased in price, coon are worthless, large tracts of land are rare and hard to come by and quite frankly there are too many more interesting things to do than walk around in the dark chasing a barking dog.

There are pockets of good hunting still and people who like it enough to tolerate all the negative aspects of it, but for your average guy...why in the world would you get involved with it from scratch unless you want to compete?



All you say is true but for us who love to hear a dog tree a coon right it's worth the hassle.

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the biggest problem I see is--

not the amount of land to hunt but the way some have bred the hunt out of the hound. I just got in from treeing one in a 5 acre patch of woods maybe a 100 yards from the truck. You ever watch some of these "big time" hounds on YouTube? Have you ever seen them when they are cut loose but their nose to the ground and start to hunt for a track, heck no. It's like you opened the gates at the Kentucky Derby, "AND THEY'RE OFF"
The second problem that I see is the youth don't really learn to enjoy the hound and respect the raccoon. I took a guy out tonight that never has coon hunted with me and he said he really enjoyed the cool fresh air and the way the hound used his mouth from the loud bawl on track to his 3 long dying locates to the change to the steady chop. He said he had a blast and if I go again to be sure to call. So if we would get back to enjoying and forget about the trophy, money or who is better maybe it's still a fun thing to do in the dark following a barking dog.

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Re: the biggest problem I see is--

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not the amount of land to hunt but the way some have bred the hunt out of the hound. I just got in from treeing one in a 5 acre patch of woods maybe a 100 yards from the truck. You ever watch some of these "big time" hounds on YouTube? Have you ever seen them when they are cut loose but their nose to the ground and start to hunt for a track, heck no. It's like you opened the gates at the Kentucky Derby, "AND THEY'RE OFF"
The second problem that I see is the youth don't really learn to enjoy the hound and respect the raccoon. I took a guy out tonight that never has coon hunted with me and he said he really enjoyed the cool fresh air and the way the hound used his mouth from the loud bawl on track to his 3 long dying locates to the change to the steady chop. He said he had a blast and if I go again to be sure to call. So if we would get back to enjoying and forget about the trophy, money or who is better maybe it's still a fun thing to do in the dark following a barking dog.



Totally agree but the type of dog you describe is very rare. They simply aren't bred that way and most folks aren't willing to dedicate 50 years to breeding raising training and culling to develop a line of dogs to then enjoy.

I also went tonight. I cut loose on 250 acres. The dog hit the woods, looped out, came back to the road, ran down it, crossed the road. I got in the truck, drove around. Parked and listened as it worked the track in the new woods, got treed 300 yards behind a half million dollar house.

This dog is never coming back, lives to hunt, and is a good coondog, but as my good buddy Travis said to me...when you turn these kind loose its a commitment. It took me 20 years to find a dog with her talent. It's hard to give that up on a gamble of finding that perfect dog that hunts a 200 yard loop. Also to enjoy that style dog you better have a great coon population or you may never hear a bark.

I'm glad you have what you enjoy, but it is literally one in a million and I know you have spent a lifetime getting it. Most of us don't have a lifetime of hunting or desire in us to get there

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The total dog miles traveled via garmin for me to tree my last 2 coon has been 5.25. I could only dream of finding a coon in a 5 acre patch woods. I'd actually love that

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Your population

Must be almost nothing??
Here they would have gone over more than 2 tracks in 5.25 miles. How long is the track from first bark to the tree?

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Middle of the road

Hunting with dogs is disappearing quickly…easpecially here in the industrialized gulf coast…other places many have converted to squirrel hunting with dogs and I believe it's because there are more opportunities to hunt…

I like the middle of the road type of dog meaning not one that kicks rocks in my face and running out in a straight line…this dog is one I would eventually cull once a good replacement becomes available…the dog I like starts close and works his way out at a decent rate of speed and won't miss the game we are after…this dog gets the job done and looks good doing it and is somewhat manageable…somewhat manageable because this dog looks good in any company including competition dogs so he is considered to be a competitor…its really hard to find this type of dog…

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i hunt 99% of the time by myself and its pretty peaceful. have a nice dog that handles well and is fairly accurate. usually don't have to go far to get a coon struck around here.

getting harder and harder to find places to hunt because everyone is chasing a booner and worried the deer will be scared into the next county. luckily i have a couple bigger farmers that want everything dead around me

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Re: Your population

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Must be almost nothing??
Here they would have gone over more than 2 tracks in 5.25 miles. How long is the track from first bark to the tree?



We, for whatever reason, have had a decrease in coon population in the last several years. I never seen then sitting up and it takes some work to strike a track most nights. We have isolated standing corn that is not getting hit by coon like it used to be. We are all corn and woods and from the outside looking in, it looks like coon paradise.

Both nights tracks from strike to tree I would guess was about 200 to 250 yards. The rest of the trip was getting to a track to strike. Don't get me wrong this is not 5 miles as the crow flies, this is just 5 miles over 2 different hunts in 2 completely different areas of dog travel.

Both nights I have been in my truck driving around a section to cut the dog off from the next road within 5 minutes of turn out. If you have coon she is deadly, but if you don't your gonna go find her treed somewhere. This kind of hunting is largely uncomfortable, not a "pleasure" and for me a bit stressful due to the danger for the dog. This is the situation and you either go and risk it, or hang it up.

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Alot more to do out in the world, alot more trouble to get into haha. I grew up walk hunting curs/hounds/collies thru big timber hollers with my dad. Wouldn't see a yard light or hear a house dog in most places. Dogs got out of hearin and we'd start topping "mountains" to listen off the other side. Gettin the dogs rounded up alot quicker these days haha.

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I have never looked at --

caring, training and enjoying a Raccoon Hound as a sport. To me it's a hobby. Like woodcraft or my daughters' quilting. Can you make it a sport? With out a doubt and it has turned into a sport that is so different then any other sport. Golfers play on the same greens and score on the same hole for a tournament, Nascar races on the same track with the same finish line for a given race and baseball has the same foul lines same home run distance and same bases for their game of the day. But comp hunts have turned into a different animal. They do not run the same track anymore nor are they scored on the same tree?? I feel you could train an English Pointer to tree raccoon and they would be darn hard to beat in today's hunts. They will flat out fly while they hunt, if you don't get a handle on them they will end up in the next county and when they lock up, they're there until you get to them. But to some of us that isn't what got us into the hobby of these hounds.
And to you younger hunters, please watch how you show others who don't understand what we do and present yourself like the World is watching because today, it is. I was reading an article in one of the magazines and the writer said that some think of us as "hillbillies" wanting only our whiskey, tobacco and then back to our killing ways. Then I see this same guy on YouTube with his lip loaded up with tobacco like he had just gone 10 rounds with Mike Tyson and spitting in a pop bottle while being interviewed. I turned it off because I was about to need a bucket myself. The good news is they didn't show his whiskey bottle. The World has gotten a lot smaller place with all the cameras today and you just never know who will turn it around and use it against you.

Happy Hunting
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