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Why not to many people campaign them in the big hunts ?? I know there’s a few but just wondering why not so many red dogs as there is of the other breeds !!! Everyone I’ve ever hunted would tree coons as they came and go deep if they had too also very accurate hounds as well and not to mention had the meat when they treed and stayed treed all night if the had to !! Very determined smart hounds with good handles !! Good in the kennel as well as in the woods ... why are more people not hunting them they used to be popular back in the day why not now ?

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Sounds like you have had good experiences with Red bones and I noticed you were wanting a pup, so you should buy a red bone pup. Richard Lambert has a nice stock of red bones, you should contact him. Dave

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It's just what kind of paint job you like. Count the red, black and blue cars you see today versus the white cars. And you will see why people hunt Walkers. Plus if 80 of the top 100 dogs are Walkers that might be telling you something but I will guarantee they are just as many or more sorry walkers out there.

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I dont believe its just a color thing....every breed has there differences....i could point out things about certain breeds but i dont wanna step on toes...yall know what im talkin about without saying anything...


I think that they arent as popular because they were soo popular...

But i have seen some good redbones..

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I don't think I agree with that I hear all the time about how trashy Walker dogs are. But years ago my entire deer dog pack consisted of reject coon dogs and not 1 Walker in the pack but I had all the other colors.

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Night Cry, you answered your own question. The reason there aren't that many Redbones being campaigned is because there aren't that many Redbones.

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Just not many around ?? Or not many hunting ?? Or just not a line of dogs staying true ?

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It's an acquired taste. There's more different then the color. Some of its good some not so much

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So in your experience the red breed in a whole ... what are your thoughts of the good and not so good ?

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So in your experience the red breed in a whole ... what are your thoughts of the good and not so good ?

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It is simple math. Even with good breeding practices, 10-20% of a litter will make good comp coondogs. If you have 100 pups, then you will get 10 nice comp dogs. If you have 1,000 Pups then you will get 100 nice comp dogs. Now look at the # of pups sired by the top reproducing studs in a breed.

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When you are breeding dogs, it is very, very, very hard to get all of the traits that you want in pups. So most breeders concentrate on one or two. Historically most Redbone breeders have concentrated on brains while walker breeders have concentrated on tree and drive.

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Black n Tan Redbones why n how often do they show up in a litter? I've seen where some are sold n registered as a crossbreed. I know some breeders cull them at birth. Has anyone bought one n train them? JesseJ

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the percentage of redbone compared to a lot of other breeds is low,but I have had a lot of other breed hunters liked my reds when they drew them in the hunts,and a lot of other redbone hunters get the same compliments on there hounds to, and its all a person preference what breed they want to hunt.

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I like a real coon dog period, I do not care what color it is. I have hunted with some top notch redbones that I would certainly been pleased to own. I am a coon hunter and like to hunt with top notch dogs regardless of breed, it's the dog that makes the difference, not the breed. Mr. Lambert was correct in saying it's simply math, you are going to have more good dogs the larger the number of dogs in a certain breed. Mr. Stevens was correct in saying you will look longer and spend more for a top notch dog in a breed with fewer dogs to select from. Truthfully, there are not many top notch dogs regardless of breed and they command a premium price, if they can be bought. Dave

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I've owned 1 redbone coondog in my life he was given to me as a puppy. He started as any other pup I had started with the old dog and he was running and treeing around the 6 time out. Started hunting him alone and was doing well. Unfortunately like any other breed of pup he hung him a deer and left the country and got ran over. In my limited knowledge in the redbone breed I didn't notice anything different about him but he was a big dark red good looking sucker. I would try another 1 but the simple truth is I don't know a soul around here that has any English, Blueticks, and Walkers I have no problem getting within 30 miles of my house and usually they are free usually them free ones turn out better. Every time I buy one they never turn out. I would say this if you got a Walker or English on the lead no saids nothing any other breed your going to take some revving.

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there are tough hounds in every breed!

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What breeding was “get ahead lil red” and I have Drawn Shane maxey at a couple pkc hunts and he’s usually hauling a pretty nice red one. Got drawn out with Richard at pkc redbone days and he beat me on the late round.

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Lil red was a half Walker and a red dog they found on the road so really no telling.

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Dogs like people should be judged for what they are, not what color they are. As others have stated, you find good and bad in all breeds. I don't know a single serious coon hunter that would not be proud to own a top coon dog regardless of breed or color. Dave

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Really great 1's are hard to get regardless of breed. If there good enough it wouldn't matter if there purple with pink polka dots.
Not 1 person could tell ya what breed it is if they didn't see it before it was cut loose. That's how different the breeds are.

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Not 1 person could tell ya what breed it is if they didn't see it before it was cut loose.

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Black n Tan Redbones why n how often do they show up in a litter? I've seen where some are sold n registered as a crossbreed. I know some breeders cull them at birth. Has anyone bought one n train them? JesseJ

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The black in a black and tan Redbone pup can come from a blanket backed ancestor. It doesn't have to come from a black and tan ancestor. Also, in bloodhounds either solid red or high tan is acceptable. At some point some enterprising breeder might have decided to add a little nose to his hounds. Of course he would have gotten larger, slower, close hunting hounds as a byproduct.

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I drew redbones a lot back in the day two guys that come to mind were James dorman and don nye they always had good dogs.


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