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How many would buy an 18 month old that has been hunted quite a bit and will tree a coon but hasn't shown that extra something or been real consistent. Let's say the pup is will bred out of reproducing dogs. Or would you rather buy a 6 month old that is just ready to start. Just wondering what others think.

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Six month old.I have the 18 month old your talking about.

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6 month old also if the 18 month old was gonna be special he would be starting to shine by now.....

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One reason I asked this question is that 40 years ago I heard people say every walker dog would be born 2 years old. That was because a lot of them didn't start doing much till then. And now we look at it entirely different.

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I'd have to know specifically what kind of hunting (and exactly how much hunting) the 18 month old has had to say for sure.
If he's been hunted a couple nights a week, mostly with other dogs, I'd gamble on him finding another gear. Its pretty amazing what 30 nights in a row by itself will do for a dog, even one that looks common.

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You see a lot of dogs for sale that (just need a lil more hunting) when actually they've been hunted enough for the owner to know if they're gonna be special or not..

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I wouldn't buy neither ... Their both too old !

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I like raising my own so l have more to choose from...
If I buy I prefer 8 week old pups on account they all have an equal chance...six month old and year old pups are sometimes sold because there is something about them that isn’t liked...I don’t want those either...

Having said that I was given a young dog that I saw as a ten because he didn’t like that style of dog...he had a kennel full of what he liked and I didn’t like any of them for me...nice dogs but not my style...

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I like those ads that say just needs a few weeks and will be really nice or trying to sell 6 to 10 month old pup and they say the hard part is over Are you kidding me the hard part is just beginning

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I like those ads that say just needs a few weeks and will be really nice or trying to sell 6 to 10 month old pup and they say the hard part is over Are you kidding me the hard part is just beginning

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I agree with this. To me the really hard part (and you don't know if it will happen) is finishing a dog. Young dogs that can tree an easy coon really are everywhere but a truly 90% finished dog is rare. Or at least that's my experience.

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See, I'd say just the opposite. I can take that rough young dog and clean it up some. I feel like my strong suit with a dog is polishing one, making a decent one good or a good one better. I'm no coondog whisperer, but identifying a weakness and improving it is the part I like most, and usually have the most success with.

By the time I've raised a pup to hunting age, I usually already hate it. 6-8 months of pen barking, and bucket chewing, and carrying off shoes has me so mad that I never give them a fair shake.

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I certainly don't possess anything near expertise when it comes to dogs, but I do enjoy solving problems way, way more than raising pups and hoping for all the pieces to fall in place.

And you're exactly right, the vast majority of "finished, good coondogs" are common at very best. Common can be fun, and common can be good enough sometimes, but when you've seen uncommon or witnessed exceptional first hand, it'll keep you looking and hoping and training.

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Originally posted by Cory Highfill
See, I'd say just the opposite. I can take that rough young dog and clean it up some. I feel like my strong suit with a dog is polishing one, making a decent one good or a good one better. I'm no coondog whisperer, but identifying a weakness and improving it is the part I like most, and usually have the most success with.

By the time I've raised a pup to hunting age, I usually already hate it. 6-8 months of pen barking, and bucket chewing, and carrying off shoes has me so mad that I never give them a fair shake.

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I was never a dog trainer, no patience or desire to be one, however, I did take a couple of well started dogs over the years and polished them up. If I buy one not fully trained, it must be one that's well started, no pups for me. Dave

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Foe what it is worth let me tell you this … I have trained 3 different dogs that were 18 months old or older when I received them, all 3 dogs were given to me by owners who wonted to see them given a chance to make a Coon Dog … I knew that none of the 3 had been ruined by whipping on, shocked on, and other ways that dogs can be ruined, they just had never been given a chance... It may have been LUCK and I'm sure it was but all 3 made outstanding coon hounds and brought a sack full of money and in a short period of time... As long as a dog has not been ruined and has had a little handling ( not overly shy or timid ) they can easily be trained and will reach their Full Potential ...

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Wadepardue it is like you said...if an 18 month old is socialized but never been in the woods it can still make an outstanding hunting dog in the right hands...but the genetics to be an outstanding hunting dog has to be there...

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If you don't currently own a good coon dog, go buy one, then you can get a younger dog any age you want and go to work on them.

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