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Can anyone tell me about bocephus and his offspring

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I have bred to him twice. As far as the reproducing he is as good as it gets. That doesn't mean every female will cross with him.

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What type of puppy's does he normally throw? I know a lot comes from the momma dog but I'm saying in general what characteristics are coming off him

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I have 2 males here off Bocephus and different females. They treed their on easy coon by 9 months old, naturally hate coon and prefer them and were naturally straight or easy to break from off game. Big Motor, Big Mouth, Good Looking Hounds that sound like hounds should. Very Accurate. When first starting to tree may locate a bunch of times and be a little slow to settle but once they have their confidence built up they will grab a tree close or deep as fast as anybody's hound and have the coon. Mine hunt hard and fast until struck. They usually are struck within half mile but if not will go to about a mile then start to loop back my way but not the same way they went in. It will look like a big paper clip on the Garmin. They will get a hundred or so yards one way or the other when they start back my way. Very intense tree dogs. Good nose and know how to use it, if track bogs down will drift out and pick it up or find another. Sometimes will scribble a little dot on the Garmin for a few minutes but they aren't opening or Boo Hooing around, they checking trees and if not found within a few minutes they will blast out of there. They Bond with their owner and Love to Please. Very smart. I have hunted with 3 other males from Bocephus and different females and they also had the Big Motor, Big Mouth and Accurate. One of them is in Kentucky right now trying to win the Big Money and I'm pretty sure Johnny Brown is there with Bocephus as well. I think he is about 8 years old now and that's pretty impressive to me the owner still putting him in the Big Hunts and breeding a lot of females. I have only met Johnny one time and he is a fine fellow. I said over 2 years ago and I will say it again, when Bocephus time is up and we are 15 years or more from now we will still be feeling the impact he is having on the breed in a Positive Way. He is the next JBS Chief of the Blueticks.

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Hard hunting, fast hunters, really good track dogs, solid pressure type tree dogs. Big mouths, dogs with brains enough to handle there nose. Tree coons any way you can at a early age. Independent but not stupid independent. Will go deep if they have to, but don't run pass coons just to get by their selves.

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Hunting a gyp out of Bocephus and just pulled her off a tree with a coon. 1.2 miles from where I sent her from. She is a loud hard treedog.

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The Hounds I Enjoyed Hunting:
Dual Gr Natural Smokey River Rebel, A buddy of mine
Gr. Nt Natural Blue Echo ( Gr Nt Quail Ck Jimmy X Nt Ch Natural Blue Bell)
Gr Nt Smokey River Chief's Joe (JBS Chief X Gr Nt Jeans Ruby)
Gr. Nt. Ch. Natural Smokey River Lucy (Chief's Joe X Muggins)
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I have heard feedback from an owner of a Bocephus dog that some (not all) tend to be later bloomers. Even though that being the case for his hound, he said once the hound started it came on quick and has made a well above average hound. I realize the gyp plays a huge part as well. One thing is for sure, Bocephus and his offspring have proven and are continuing to prove they can get it done at a high level!

I tip my hat and say CONGRATULATIONS to Mr. Johnny Brown for continuing to hunt Bocephus in hunts like what are going on in Ky. this week. He is getting his share amongst some of the most elite competition to be found.

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I've hunted one female that i sold that started late but once she started she took on a hold new attuited about hunting. Im on a new one now that is 7 months old i took her hunting twice. The first night she didnt do much on the first turn out kill a coon and she went nuts. Second turn out she took off behind Ann and was at the tree when i got there shot out another one drag it a few yards and trail it up but didnt tree. Took her last night and left with Ann and never came back. I really like her and done found myself trying to figure out what youg fog i wont to hunt.
I believe in the Bo. Off spring if hunted.

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I've hunted one female that i sold that started late but once she started she took on a hold new attuited about hunting. Im on a new one now that is 7 months old i took her hunting twice. The first night she didnt do much on the first turn out kill a coon and she went nuts. Second turn out she took off behind Ann and was at the tree when i got there shot out another one drag it a few yards and trail it up but didnt tree. Took her last night and left with Ann and never came back. I really like her and done found myself trying to figure out what youg fog i wont to hunt.
I believe in the Bo. Off spring if hunted.

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This is funny to me I told everybody that got a pup out of the last litter they might be a little late starting. Coon hunters got a lot of kid in them. Every one of them took there pup home at 8 weeks old and layed drags and they all acted like they had been doing it all there lives. Just goes to show you.

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One thing is for sure, not two are the same, & not all of them will make it. The finished product is/will be the ultimate measuring stick.

All good & bad usually gets hung on to the stud dog. At the end of the day, I'm a firm believer the female plays a bigger part in the offspring characteristics.

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Gr Nt Ch S&E's Midnite Lite Blue Snow (Co-Owned with my good friend Harry Eidenier) - We had a blast following you ole girl!

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Over Bocephus but wanted to post a link to Big Country Blueticks. Big Country is an offspring of Bocephus. Check out Steve Bankston's Bogue Chitto Blueticks posts on the Bluetick Stud dog page as well his thread will tell you as much as you will find out anywhere. It's a good read too.

http://forums.ukcdogs.com/showthrea...eadid=928457029

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Zero is a son of bocephus.

I believe Vic is referring to what I told him about zero. I told him Zero was a later bloomer. Im not talking about treeing drags..or treeing one easy coon every other week.

I'm talking about the whole package... he was a tree dog first and foremost.. early on- treeing on every tree he smelled coon on- mostly dens n lots of them- he wasn't a natural track dog.... It took many trips to the woods where he learned to work a track right.. he was a 2 year old dog before he was consistently treeing 4 or 5 coons a night for me.

Total package/ready for night hunts for me is

1) Not leaving a tree
2) treeing 4 to 5 coon a night (2 hours)consistently solo
3) Will not come back to check in
4) will not return to a previously scored tree

Zero was over 2 years old before he had the above qualifications I like to have.

Sure he treed an easy coon WAY before that. Guess its all about how you define "early starter"


I've had 4 or 5 of bocephus- traits I've noticed

1) Tight on the ground- Not silent, but tight
2) good tree instinct
3) Good mouths
4) above average intelligence
5) Hunt with head up, not looking for the coon that walked yesterday
6) Quick locator
7) Due to #7, misses some

look on the Pkc bluetick race- bocephus is still there- Zero has been in the top 16 for the last several years

I think its awesome that Johnny brown is hunting Bocephus..

bocephus was high scoring blue male at a ukc world hunt


I AGREE W MR. BANKSTON, BOCEPHUS IS MAKING HIS MARK

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CURRENT - Bluetick Coonhounds/Males - Computed by Percentage
8 CH GRNITECH'PR'GOODSONS ROWDY BOCEPHUS 11 5 16 252 166 6.35 GRNITECH'PR'DOUBLE SPRINGS BODACIOUS GRNITECH CH'PR'DAVIS'S WHITE RIVER SALIN SADIE


here's his stats according to UKC-
11 night champs
5 grand nights
252 total pups- 166 of which were permanently registered

6.35% I believe that # will increase quite a bit

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I have a male off Bo, that is 11 months old will go hunting opens a lot on track and a tree dog. He is a good looking dog also.

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We started several in Bodacious' litter being they were out of our Razor Ridge female, Pop A Dot and Troy Sheffield's Echo II, and on average, they started between 11 and 14 mths, so it definitely is in the blood to potentially start a little later. They also have it in their blood to be track driving machines, so it's just what you really want. As stated not all of them make it either, but that's any bloodline if people are honest.

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Congratulations to Bocephus and Johnny Brown on Bocephus moving to the number 1 spot on the reproducers list this month.

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Congrats Johnny!! Number 1, making History as one of the best, and still being put in the Hunts!! Much Respect!

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The Flo x Bocephus cross produced 4 nice treedogs. Three finished to nt ch one grand nt. Currently I have a Ruby x Bocephus pup that I have high hopes for. Ruby is a littermate to Flo. Also a Trudy x Botox puppy that I will be starting this spring. Most of the hounds I've hunted for the past 25 years have had similar ancestory.

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Gr Nt Ch Natural Smokey River Flo UKC Top 20 placing 15th UKC World 2011, top 100 2014 (Rebel x Mailes Lil)


The Hounds I Enjoyed Hunting:
Dual Gr Natural Smokey River Rebel, A buddy of mine
Gr. Nt Natural Blue Echo ( Gr Nt Quail Ck Jimmy X Nt Ch Natural Blue Bell)
Gr Nt Smokey River Chief's Joe (JBS Chief X Gr Nt Jeans Ruby)
Gr. Nt. Ch. Natural Smokey River Lucy (Chief's Joe X Muggins)
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We raised BO sister Kaskaskia River Blue Dizzie She started early doing a GREAT job at 11 months old Split ( with the coon and stay) very natural !! Doug started her and said she was the 2nd best that he has had clear river dimond jimII was the 1st!

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Did you breed Sadie to Diamond Jim II ? If so how did that cross compare to the Bodacious x Sadie cross? I've got a couple of females that are out of brothers to Jim II that I think would cross good on Mr. Blue and was just wondering how that has worked out in the past.

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Sorry I haven't been on much Bodacious cross was better that little jim! Little Jim was one hell of a COON DOG! he was raised close to my house by a good friend of mine Doug Liegh, I have seen Jim do as good work as any dog that lived but him and Sadie didnt line up reel well . Their were some good pups off that cross but it took a couple years for their mouth to come around Thier were at least 3 grand nts out of her and Bo which reproduced( Very inportant) Dizzie is at # 7 at this time.

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The Flo x Bocephus cross produced 4 nice treedogs. Three finished to nt ch one grand nt. Currently I have a Ruby x Bocephus pup that I have high hopes for. Ruby is a littermate to Flo. Also a Trudy x Botox puppy that I will be starting this spring. Most of the hounds I've hunted for the past 25 years have had similar ancestory.

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LEGACYK DARE TO DREAM V CBLUES
LEGACYK WHITE AS A GHOST V CBLUES

Gone but not forgotten
GRNITECH GRCH PKC CH'PR'CLEMENTS' BLUE PRANCER
GRNITECH GRCH'PR'SPIKE'S TWILITE HOOKER
'PR'PRANCER'S GETTIN DOWN N DIRTY (PrancerxHooker)
NITECH CH’PR’BUELL’S BLUE ROCKY(Whitey x Spice)
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Btt. Tell me more on the playing and changing wanting to please.

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GrNitech Overton's Breathless Blue Chief Full brother to Nite ch Snowdens Runt
Gr Nite ch Overton's Breathless Blu Knight. King of Hunt Fall Round Up 2006 loudest dog I have ever owned.
Gr Nite ch Overton's Breathless Blue Roler hit died at 2years old at semi finals of World hunt
Gr Nite ch Utchmans Double Eagle Hoss
Dual Grand Utchmans So Blue Timber top 100 Finalist in 2005 World hunt 2012 performance sire
Gr Ch Nite CH Overton's Breathless Blue Warrior 4wins died at 6 yrs old. Sire to Knight
NiteCh Overton's Breathless Blue Dixie LOUD!
NiteCH Lienbachs Breathless Blue Jammer
Nite Ch Overton's Breathless Blue Drum 3 wins to Grand. before 2 yrs old Running ant treeing wild coons at 5 months alone.
Gr Ch Nitech Rob's Blue Tomahawk
Pr Overton's Breathless Blue Dolly super fast track and tree dog. accurate.
Grch Nitech Overton's Utchmans Blue Belle
Nite Ch Overton's Breathless Blue Sabrina 2nd place Nite ch at Fall Round Up 2009
Nite Ch Pr Overton's Breathless Blue Sounder
GRNite Ch Pr Overton's Breathless Blu Magic 13 years old brother to Roler
Pr Overton's Breathless Blue Gobber. Running and treeing wild coons at 5 months

Nite Ch O Breathless Blue Tree Dragon
Treeing his own wild coon at 6 months old.

Dogs living
Overton"s Breathless blue Julia. Bill Bird owner
Dual Champion Uchtman So Blue Lumber 6yrs
Owned by Cody Stader in Indiana
Dual Grand Overton's Breathless Blue Maggie
Present Owned by Luke Wood in Okalhoma


Dall Haden and Bobby Hayes have been a big part of my breeding of my hounds also Bill Bird for help keeping it going.

*All my dogs are old Ucthman Hawk and Scout breeding with some Smokey River Chief and Diamond Jim.
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Kandy off Bojangles and Grand Nite ch PKC CH Redstick Ann. Super fast track dog good tree dog loud. co owner with Earl Howell Queen of Hunt at Fall Round Up 2019 at 2 years old.

Overton"s Breathless Blue Lincoln
Overton"s Breathless Blue Ava.

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Autumn Sorry I didn't get back I haven't been on here much
Sadie was breed to a registerd dog in OK. called Trister (this was a good cross I really like the Bo X Sadie cross the Boomer X Sadie had the most Titled dog in it.

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