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mitchell6965
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Training question or ideas, please.

Hello Houndsman,

I have a young TW hound that has a lot of good tools and I like her pretty good.

A little history on her. She is a 2 year old female that was started when i bought her out of North Carolina at the age of 15 months old. She was walked around bucket feeders before i bought her. She didn't have no hustle to her at that time.
I brought her to Indiana and was working her hard, making her go hunting by herself. She adjusted quickly and will busy a hole in the dark. I've seen her go a mile but she hunts out nice and not just straight line gone. She went from opening freely on track to stone silent here in Indiana? She is very ACCURATE. All of a sudden she has started opening up on track and moving them good.

Here is my issue. She does not want to tree with anything. I asked previous owners and they informed me they used to discipline her if she was ever with another dog. The issue I an having is she hears another dog treed or trailing and she covers to them and will hunt around them even coming part the tree while you are asst the tree. She used to make a jealous tree 20-40 yards away and make you a believer. She quit doing that but she will not tree with anything but yet she won't bust in the country and get to herself only 50% of the time. What would you do to get her to either tree and cover them or busty in and get treed to herself? She split trees all the time but if you recast to dogs competing for strike she goes to the area if dogs treed itty trailing. I want her since she isn't going to cover them go another direction and get hooked?

I usually have no issues working or fixing problems but I am stumped on the recasting a bc how to fix it just because if you turned loose in a cast together and they all strike a red booty track and jam a coon, I hear her locate and tree in front of dogs but i cannot tree her because she not going to tee when dog it dogs cover her?

Thank you four your time.

Mitchell

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So you want her to cover? Or your wanting her alone? Sounds like they were trying to break her from covering and got some of the work done but not enough. And she won't cover at this point because the previous owner might have been rough on her, so she's trying to play it safe. If you're wanting her to stay when a dog backs her, its going to be a long road. But can be done. You'll need to find a dog that covers in the blink of an eye for this. Let her get treed, go and the her so she can't leave and send the other dog in to cover. When the other dog gets there you'll want to be there asap. Praise her for treeing with the other dog. And repeat the process until another dog covering her doesn't effect her treeing at all. Then try it with out riding her at the tree.
But if you want her to get away from the other dogs and be alone then you'll want to let another dog get treed, and if she heads towards that dog give a correction. And keep after her about it. Don't stop until she gets far enough away that you want her to start hunting again, say 600 yards. If she gets within a radius of say 300-400 yards get after her again. Keep that process up until she wants to be alone.
But imho you'll be farther ahead by doing the first method. She's not a natural loner, so it's tough on one. And you can never fully trust a man made loner to be alone.

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mitchell6965
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Thank you eric for your input and insight I was on the same thinking as you are. I been already leading her into my other dogs tree and praising her. I did that several times and at first she didn't know what to expect from me but was starting to get comfortable treeing with him. Then when I thought she was ready I turned her loose to my dog treed and she went to him and treed. But when i got there she was 5 yards away split but she had a coon. Male dog had a den tree. Lol my luck right? I'll keep working on it. She has a ton of sense.
Thanks again

Mitchell

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Sounds like you're on the right track to me. I'd say it's going to take more than a few times for her to get comfortable with being with the other dogs. Some guys like one to back, some don't. I like mine to think for itself. But if he/she doesn't have one going it better get a piece of yours or take it away from you. But I also like one to figure out quick not to follow dogs but lead them. I like to call it indifferent, doesn't care what's going really. My buddy had a dog that was in the same boat as yours. We got her figured out. It took some time, but she made a decent dog in the long run. Not a world class type, but a steady go tree coon pleasure dog.

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