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ez38115
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Virginia dog owners *important*

Contact your house of delegates representatives to tell them no on HB1900. This bill is supposed to voted on Monday February 6th this bill will affect all dog owners. If passed an your dog is found on someone else's property you could be fined. This is any dog that is on property that you do not have permission to be on. Hounds or house pets. This will affect all houndsmen no matter what you hunt. This bill has already made it out of committee and will be debated this week. Please if you are a dog owner light their phones up.

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buckmaster27012
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Heres a list of email addresses for all delegates. If this bill passes will be the end of right to retrieve in Virginia, which as coon hunters know is very important late at night. Just copy and paste, ask to vote no to HB1900.

DelKPlum@house.virginia.gov[/email], DelWHowell@house.virginia.gov, DelVWatts@house.virginia.gov[/email], DelTWright@house.virginia.gov, DelTWilt@house.virginia.gov, DelTPillion@house.virginia.gov, DelTKilgore@house.virginia.gov[/email], DelTHugo@house.virginia.gov, DelTGreason@house.virginia.gov, DelTGilbert@house.virginia.gov, DelTAustin@house.virginia.gov, DelSRasoul@house.virginia.gov, DelSLingamfelter@house.virginia.gov, DelSLandes@house.virginia.gov, DelSHeretick@house.virginia.gov[/email], DelSGarrett@house.virginia.gov, DelRVillanueva@house.virginia.gov, DelRSullivan@house.virginia.gov, DelRTyler@house.virginia.gov, DelRRobinson@house.virginia.gov, DelRMorris@house.virginia.gov, DelRMinchew@house.virginia.gov, DelRIngram@house.virginia.gov, DelRHolcomb@house.virginia.gov, DelRBloxom@house.virginia.gov, DelRBell@house.virginia.gov, DelRAnderson@house.virginia.gov, DelPKrizek@house.virginia.gov, DelPHope@house.virginia.gov, DelPFarrell@house.virginia.gov, DelNRush@house.virginia.gov[/email], DelNFreitas@house.virginia.gov, DelMWebert@house.virginia.gov, DelMSimon@house.virginia.gov, DelMSickles@house.virginia.gov, DelMRansone@house.virginia.gov, DelMPrice@house.virginia.gov, delmmullin@house.virginia.gov, DelMLoupassi@house.virginia.gov, DelMLevine@house.virginia.gov, DelMKeam@house.virginia.gov, <DelMJames@house.virginia.gov, DelMFariss@house.virginia.gov, DelMDudenhefer@house.virginia.gov, DelMCole@house.virginia.gov, DelLWare@house.virginia.gov, DelLTorian@house.virginia.gov, DelLBagby@house.virginia.gov, DelLAird@house.virginia.gov, DelLAdams@house.virginia.gov, DelKMurphy@house.virginia.gov, DelKKory@house.virginia.gov, DelKCox@house.virginia.gov, DelKByron@house.virginia.gov, DelJYost@house.virginia.gov, <DelJWard@house.virginia.gov, DelJOBannon@house.virginia.gov, DelJMorefield@house.virginia.gov, DelJMiyares@house.virginia.gov, DelJMiller@house.virginia.gov, DelJMassie@house.virginia.gov, DelJLindsey@house.virginia.gov, DelJLeMunyon@house.virginia.gov, DelJLeftwich@house.virginia.gov, DelJEdmunds@house.virginia.gov, [email]DelJCampbell@house.virginia.gov, DelJBoysko@house.virginia.gov, DelJBell@house.virginia.gov, delioquinn@house.virginia.gov, DelGHelsel@house.virginia.gov, DelGHabeeb@house.virginia.gov, DelGDavis@house.virginia.gov, DelDYancey@house.virginia.gov, DelDToscano@house.virginia.gov, DelDMcQuinn@house.virginia.gov, DelDMarshall@house.virginia.gov, DelDLaRock@house.virginia.gov, DelDHester@house.virginia.gov, DelDBulova@house.virginia.gov, DelDBell@house.virginia.gov, DelDAlbo@house.virginia.gov, [email]DelCStolle@house.virginia.gov, DelCPoindexter@house.virginia.gov, DelCPeace@house.virginia.gov, DelCJones@house.virginia.gov, DelCHerring@house.virginia.gov, DelCHead@house.virginia.gov, delchayes@house.virginia.gov, DelCCollins@house.virginia.gov, [email]DelBPogge@house.virginia.gov, DelBOrrock@house.virginia.gov, DelBMarshall@house.virginia.gov, DelBKnight@house.virginia.gov, [email]DelBFowler@house.virginia.gov, DelBCline@house.virginia.gov, DelBCarr@house.virginia.gov, [email]DelALopez@house.virginia.gov

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House Bill 1900

This is a bad bill to all dog owners in Va, it doesn't jus effect hunting dogs but pets aswell. Please send an email to the delegates listed and tell them to vote NO! Pass this along to other you know who my not own hunting dogs but do own pets and let them know that it could effect this too.

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DONE

SENT EMAIL

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dlinkous
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send all an email and here is the response one sent back:

This bill passed the House Rules Committee earlier this week. The version that passed was significantly different than the original.
The substitute provides that, after appropriate notice, any dog owner or custodian who, without permission, allows a dog to roam onto the land of another both for the purpose of hunting or chasing game and in a manner that unduly burdens the landowner’s use and enjoyment of the property be subject to a civil penalty of $100 for the first occurrence and $250 for the second and subsequent occurrence on the same property.

The substitute specifies (i) that notice must be in writing or by a posted sign, (ii) that there can be no more than one actionable violation within a 24 hour period, irrespective of the number of dogs involved, and (iii) that the landowner is not to restrain or detain the dog except for purposes of prompt identification.

Penalties for violations of the statute will be received by the locality (not the landowner) and will only be imposed by a court after a landowner has proven with exceptional evidence that the statute has been violated.

Again, thanks for reaching out to me on this important issue.
Regards,
Kirk Cox

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ez38115
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HB 1900

This bill is garbage just gonna make alot of hard feelings and tie up the legal systems in the counties. The way i read the amended bill to me it was any dog not in control of its owner. This affects all hound hunters in Virginia, if you say it is not that bad next year they will come back and take a little more till you won't be able to run hounds on any game. I think there are alot more important issues they should b worried about.

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Sounds like to me that Mr. Kirk Cox has his mind made up to vote to pass this bill. Need to make sure he remembers who had the choice in electing him in to office. This is a terrible bill for all dog owners not just hunting dogs.

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Bad bill! Whats to stop people from claiming they identified your dog on there property and having you charged?

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Originally posted by dean jamerson
Bad bill! Whats to stop people from claiming they identified your dog on there property and having you charged?


Well, whatever law enforcement officer that charges you has to be able to prove what he's charging or it gets thrown out. I don't think anyone is going to get charged just because a landowner says so. My thing is how does anyone prove it except to catch the dogs or have photos of them and then you still have to figure out who's the owner. I always have bear dogs running around on my property over near Natural Bridge during the running season. Most of the time they don't even have collars on them and I have tried to catch them to see if I can return them. They never really hurt anything but I seriously doubt the "rightful" owners would ever claim them anyway.
Gamewarden pulls up to your house with a dog in the backseat and his ticket book in hand and asks, "This your dog, sir???" only to get the Mexican "what" look.....
Not saying it's not a bad bill, I just don't really see it working out too good or otherwise accomplishing much. Generally, when I see things that don't make any sense I start wandering what's the real reason for this??? Foot in the door to go after a bigger fish????

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24th Distract

If you are in this distract you really need to contact your rep Ben Cline
804-698-1024 and ask for Legislative Assistant, Nicole Manley

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66th distract

You need to contact Kirk Cox at 804- 698-1066

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HB 1900

What i hear they have amended the bill again to exclude dog west of the blueridge. The big thing they are after are deer dogs but all houndsmen need to stick together an stop this bill. They are trying to divide us. They do away with deer dogs then they won't stop there. I have heard that HSUS is in support of this bill an we all don't need them cause they are against all hunting. If you haven't done so please contact your house representatives an tell them to vote no on HB1900. United we stand divided we will all fall.

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HB 1900

Rally at the general assembly building Monday morning February 6th at 8 am i you can be there please do wear orange hats and show our solidarity and let the house know we are against this bill.

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HB 1900

HB 1900 was defeated this morning by a single vote. For now it is dead but can be brought up for reconsideration should some of the legislators think they can swing one or two votes.

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It is being amended now and will come up for revote this afternoon since it was so close. The word on the street is that the ammendment will exempt fox hunters on horseback from the ramifications outlined in the bill. If you have a personal contact with any of the delegates you need to get on the phone NOW!

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It is being amended now and will come up for revote this afternoon since it was so close. The word on the street is that the amendment will exempt fox hunters on horseback from the ramifications outlined in the bill. If you have a personal contact with any of the delegates you need to get on the phone NOW!

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there is a video of Matt Fariss' speech to house telling a story and speaking against this bill, it is on facebook. I don't know how to copy link but its a good story and he is standing up for you dog hunters in VA

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HB 1900

According to VDHA the house speaker has decided not to bring the bill back up for vote. We have won for now but this is not over. My girls an myself would like to thank all that contacted the delegates an the hunter that made it to Richmond, I heard over 300 showed up I know there were a lot of people there. We must stay vigilant an stuck together cause this ain't over yet , and remember the delegates that voted for this when election time comes.

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Bipartisan Rabbit Hunt

http://www.richmond.com/news/virgin...2afd7b421b.html

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The sponser

of the bill Northern VA that figures

Delegate William J. Howell
Preferred Name: Bill
Member Since: 1988
Speaker of the House (2003—)
R - County of Stafford (part); City of Fredericksburg (part)
28th District

Capitol Office
General Assembly Building
P.O. Box 406
Richmond, Virginia 23218
Office: (804) 698-1028
Email AddresselWHowell@house.virginia.gov
Room Number: 635
Legislative Assistant: Kathy Roberts, Chief of Staff; Christopher West, Director of Policy & Communications
Administrative Assistant During Session: Debbie Howard

District Office
P.O. Box 8296
Fredericksburg, VA 22404
Office: (540) 371-1612
Delegate's Personal Website
http://www.williamjhowell.org

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Josh Smallwood
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Can someone post how the delegates voted? I'm looking for Charles Poindexter in particular.

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Looks like Poindexter voted against it my delegate Nick Rush voted for it but maybe this will help

https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/le...t+HV1926+HB1900

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Is it possible that it's not over for this legislative session? I'm guessing the state Senate is going to take this up for a vote then if it passes it'd go to the house? Been a while since I took that govt class in school.

http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/leg...?171+sum+SB1525

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I believe it is over unless new legislation is brought up. The bill in your link I believe has been defeated by the Senate already. I could be wrong but think that bill has already been struck down.

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Sb 1525

It died in committee wording throws you off i saw your link an went to it and took double take then went to the VHDA web site to make sure cause I thought it was killed, and it had been. But they will continue to try to get laws passed to stop hound hunting.

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