UKC Forums UKC Website :: Hunting Ops :: All-Breed Sports :: Registration :: UKC Online Store
Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences Registration is free! Calendar Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Search Home  
UKC Forums : Powered by vBulletin version 2.3.0 UKC Forums > Departments > UKC Coonhounds > This is the KEY we need to unlock the secret of our hounds.
  Last Thread   Next Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Post A Reply
Bruce m. Conkey
UKC Forum Member

Registered: May 2016
Location: Palatka, FL
Posts: 5106

This is the KEY we need to unlock the secret of our hounds.

You want to figure out something about our hounds. Figure out WHY THEY TREE.
You figure that out you will also figure out why a lot of dogs now a days are not naturally good dogs around the house or in the pen.

You think they tree because it is a tree. If the tree was a leaning tree and they could just run right up it and fight the coon right there you think they would tree. Only the ones that ain't smart enough to get up that tree would.

Out breeding of hounds has increased the frustration level in them. That frustration level is what makes them tree when the tree stops them from taking the track any further. That frustration is what makes them bark on a fence when they run into one and can't get around it. That frustration is what makes them slick tree if they don't have good tracking ability and they can't take a track from a tree. The same frustration is in pups or dogs penned up and they bark and bark. Bark collar sales are at a all time high. We are breeding neurotic frustrated dogs. The same frustration that comes out in a dog when the tree stops them from going any further is coming out in our dogs penned up and chained up across america. Yet we continue to line breed and in breed. Funny how the all grands get the bad rap. Also funny how the all grands are line bred/inbred to get the all grand pedigrees. Chose you poison. If having a coon in the tree and a dog without a bark collar isn't important, keep doing what your doing. If coon in a tree and a dog without sores on its neck from a bark collar is important, then your need to take deep breath before breeding your next hound.
We knock the X bred hounds, they may be what saves us. lol

This is a two sided sword. I will be the first to admit that line breeding works and I will be the first to admit line breeding will take us down the drain. Wait you say I can't have it both ways. You can have it both ways if you do one simple thing. That simple thing is something we have put on the back burner and will be our destruction. CULLING of the genetics that need CULLING. I would say the majority of hounds we as owners have in our pens while we are reading on here how to fix their problems. NEED TO BE CULLED. We has a whole which is a breeding program if you admit it or not are failing.

__________________
www.ConkeysOutdoors.com
"Boss Lights"

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 11-06-2016 05:15 PM
Bruce m. Conkey is offline Click Here to See the Profile for Bruce m. Conkey Click here to Send Bruce m. Conkey a Private Message Click Here to Email Bruce m. Conkey Visit Bruce m. Conkey's homepage! Find more posts by Bruce m. Conkey Add Bruce m. Conkey to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
yadkintar
Banned

Registered: Jan 2013
Location: Marietta
Posts: 10790

It's not a record but I have culled $3,000 worth this year got one left might be next.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 11-06-2016 05:22 PM
yadkintar is offline Click Here to See the Profile for yadkintar Click here to Send yadkintar a Private Message Click Here to Email yadkintar Find more posts by yadkintar Add yadkintar to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
CHEWBACH
UKC Forum Member

Registered: Jan 2007
Location: monroeville OH
Posts: 2685

quote:
Originally posted by yadkintar
It's not a record but I have culled $3,000 worth this year got one left might be next.
have met a few on this board should have been Culled!! you know who you are!!

__________________
C.JONES

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 11-06-2016 06:49 PM
CHEWBACH is offline Click Here to See the Profile for CHEWBACH Click here to Send CHEWBACH a Private Message Find more posts by CHEWBACH Add CHEWBACH to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Kler Kry
UKC Forum Member

Registered: Sep 2009
Location: Monticello, Wi
Posts: 791

Key To Successful Breeding

" IF YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT CULLING A DOG THEN YOU'VE ALREADY WAITED TOO LONG"

This is some advise that was given to me by Earl Lang of Kieler, WI many years ago that he learned from his Dad who raised beagles. Most of us don't use it enough!

I agree with Nr. Conley on this.

I've never seen the ability level of a outstanding dog improved by inbreeding or line breeding. This breeding method is a good tool to use for eliminating undesireable traits, but it is the only way to maintain traits that you desire. Brains and a strong desire to please their owner are the most important traits to me.

Beware: THE HIGHER THE IQ OF THE DOG THE LESS MISTAKES THE HANDLER CAN MAKE. They are not always as forgiving as your wife. Loose your temper with a smart dog and they may never trust you again.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 11-06-2016 09:26 PM
Kler Kry is offline Click Here to See the Profile for Kler Kry Click here to Send Kler Kry a Private Message Click Here to Email Kler Kry Find more posts by Kler Kry Add Kler Kry to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
rob thompson
UKC Forum Member

Registered: Jan 2016
Location: Bois d'Arc, MO.
Posts: 1823

Mr. Ken truer words were never spoken!

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 11-06-2016 09:37 PM
rob thompson is offline Click Here to See the Profile for rob thompson Click here to Send rob thompson a Private Message Click Here to Email rob thompson Find more posts by rob thompson Add rob thompson to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Dan Dogs
UKC Forum Member

Registered: Jun 2006
Location: Platteville, Wi
Posts: 5676

Most X bred dogs I've seen must be frustrated being in their own hide because they never shut their mouth.

__________________
Home of:
- Gr. Nite Ch. Iowa County Crybabe
- Nite Ch. Hickory Nut Dan
- Gr. CH Nite Ch. Hickory Nut Dan II
- CH. Gr. Nite Ch. Hickory Nut Dan III 2008 Performance Sire
- CH. Gr.Nite Ch. Hickory Nut Dan IV 2004 ukc world hunt finalist
- Ch. Gr.Nite Ch. Mounds Creek Sassy II
- Nite Ch. Hickory Nut Bucky HTX 3 wins towards grnite
- GrCh.GrNtCh Hickory Nut Bawlie HTX
-Nite ch. PR Iowa County CryBaby II 2013 Badger State Hunt Champion
qualified for 2013 UKC World Hunt
CH Nitech She Hate Me (scar) HTX Iowa County Kennels

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 11-07-2016 01:13 AM
Dan Dogs is offline Click Here to See the Profile for Dan Dogs Click here to Send Dan Dogs a Private Message Click Here to Email Dan Dogs Find more posts by Dan Dogs Add Dan Dogs to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
thomasg
UKC Forum Member

Registered: Apr 2014
Location: batsville ark
Posts: 1110

most find it hard to pull the trigger on the dog they gave a weeks wages or more for when it was a pup .they keep cause its out of old so and so and breed it to a highly advertise big winner hoping for the next freak of nature .

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 11-07-2016 04:26 AM
thomasg is offline Click Here to See the Profile for thomasg Click here to Send thomasg a Private Message Click Here to Email thomasg Find more posts by thomasg Add thomasg to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Brady meyers
UKC Forum Member

Registered: May 2015
Location: iowa
Posts: 14

quote:
Originally posted by Dan Dogs
Most X bred dogs I've seen must be frustrated being in their own hide because they never shut their mouth.
It's not my fault your dog can't smell anything!

__________________
Half Breed Kennel

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 11-07-2016 06:32 PM
Brady meyers is offline Click Here to See the Profile for Brady meyers Click here to Send Brady meyers a Private Message Find more posts by Brady meyers Add Brady meyers to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Dan Dogs
UKC Forum Member

Registered: Jun 2006
Location: Platteville, Wi
Posts: 5676

quote:
Originally posted by Brady meyers
It's not my fault your dog can't smell anything!
he just can't smell nothing!

__________________
Home of:
- Gr. Nite Ch. Iowa County Crybabe
- Nite Ch. Hickory Nut Dan
- Gr. CH Nite Ch. Hickory Nut Dan II
- CH. Gr. Nite Ch. Hickory Nut Dan III 2008 Performance Sire
- CH. Gr.Nite Ch. Hickory Nut Dan IV 2004 ukc world hunt finalist
- Ch. Gr.Nite Ch. Mounds Creek Sassy II
- Nite Ch. Hickory Nut Bucky HTX 3 wins towards grnite
- GrCh.GrNtCh Hickory Nut Bawlie HTX
-Nite ch. PR Iowa County CryBaby II 2013 Badger State Hunt Champion
qualified for 2013 UKC World Hunt
CH Nitech She Hate Me (scar) HTX Iowa County Kennels

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 11-07-2016 09:21 PM
Dan Dogs is offline Click Here to See the Profile for Dan Dogs Click here to Send Dan Dogs a Private Message Click Here to Email Dan Dogs Find more posts by Dan Dogs Add Dan Dogs to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Melblank
UKC Forum Member

Registered: Sep 2015
Location:
Posts: 201

Stupid language like this can get you in trouble. Do the responsible thing and spay or neuter. The media does not need any ammo.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 11-07-2016 10:15 PM
Melblank is offline Click Here to See the Profile for Melblank Click here to Send Melblank a Private Message Find more posts by Melblank Add Melblank to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
All times are GMT. The time now is 05:06 PM. Post New Thread    Post A Reply
  Last Thread   Next Thread
Show Printable Version | Email this Page | Subscribe to this Thread


Forum Jump:
 

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is OFF
vB code is ON
Smilies are ON
[IMG] code is ON
 
< Contact Us - United Kennel Club >

Copyright 2003-2020, United Kennel Club
Powered by: vBulletin Version 2.3.0
(vBulletin courtesy Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.)