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3 dog cast
SHUT OUT situation
Scores prior to dump.
Dog A:150-
Dog B:175+
Dog C: 150+

Dog A strike and trees first and first and shuts B and C out on his tree.

Dog B strikes, followed by Dog C. Called in that order
Dog B trees followed by Dog C treeing. Called in that order

Tree time runs out for both trees and we go in.
Dog A and Dog C are treed together, Dog B is off trailing.

Dog B is misused 125 for leaving her tree, and Dog C is misused 75 for leaving as well.
Coon is seen in Dog A's SHUT OUT tree.

Here's where help is needed. Dog C was minused 75 for leaving the split tree, but what is/not credited for being on a shut out tree with a coon seen.

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Dog C's strike points are deleted for covering the tree it was shutout on.

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If I understand correctly you are asking what to do with Dog c's strike pts for being at the tree where the coon was scored. I believe the answer is delete the strike pts because dog c was shutout on strike. You can not receive minus strike pts on a tree you were shutout on.

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Does 3(e) apply though? B and C were called treed within Dog A's 5min still running..

The second sentence of 3(e) is stumping me

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All dogs treed ain't gotta wait no tree times. Plus who split treed them? How far apart were they?

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No one called split tree.
They were all within the same area.


Making sense now. C should have had strike points deleted and awarded next available position on the shut out tree and plussed up, due to the fact that he was declared treed within the 5min window. We scored it as if the tree was closed. Dang! Screwed that up

Dog B should have went in as 75 instead of 125.
The "shut out" had me screwed up

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Originally posted by Nick Jennings
No one called split tree.
They were all within the same area.


Making sense now. C should have had strike points deleted and awarded next available position on the shut out tree and plussed up, due to the fact that he was declared treed within the 5min window. We scored it as if the tree was closed. Dang! Screwed that up

Dog B should have went in as 75 instead of 125.
The "shut out" had me screwed up

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This is very confusing on what dog did what the way you are explaining it. I'm pretty certain in ukc you can't call a split tree until the judge can physically see they are split or after the 5 has expired on a tree. So if you have 3 dogs treed you cant minus any dog for 125 except the first dog called treed. From what I can make of you situation, dog a gets strike and tree, dog c gets tree and b gets minus tree

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