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Ron Ashbaugh
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Dog Feed.....I swear

Does anyone think that we overthink the dog food thing a little much? I mean gracious I am all for a good discussion but it seems like we can be splitting hairs a little bit here at times.

In a nation where obesity is just a rampage maybe we need to starting worrying as much about what we feed ourselves and our youth as we do our dogs.

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Ron I understand what your saying.

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Dog food and Cancer/Thyroid issues?

Needs to figured out where all the Cancer and Thyroid issues are coming from.
Chemicals/preservitives in Dog Food,Pestisides{spelling?} Farmers are using and our hounds are breathing in?
Females not coming Heat right or not at all.
Females not taking is becoming more and more common too!!
Why?
Males with low or no semen count?

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I grew up on a farm and can never remember my dad buying a bag of dog food or a wormer.

He always said dogs can eat the left over scraps and they will finds a grass to eat that will kill the worms.

I can not believe the vet prices any more a 4 oz bottle of ear mite medicine $20.00 that's crazy I make my own guaranteed to work 1/3 peroxide 1/3 red vinegar and 1/3 alcohol used it for years.
Now they want you to pay a $20.00 office fee to just put you and a dog in a room and wait for the vet to come around and ask you what is wrong with the dog.

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Re: Dog food and Cancer/Thyroid issues?

quote:
Originally posted by 4play
Needs to figured out where all the Cancer and Thyroid issues are coming from.
Chemicals/preservitives in Dog Food,Pestisides{spelling?} Farmers are using and our hounds are breathing in?
Females not coming Heat right or not at all.
Females not taking is becoming more and more common too!!
Why?
Males with low or no semen count?



X2 on the farm chemicals, the ground hogs and the muskrats don't seem to do good on a diet of greens seasoned with chemicals

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I always get a chuckle out of these "Which Dogfood" threads. My grandpa always had a deer hound or two in the 40's and 50's. They ate table scraps. Mostly boiled potatoes and chicken bones. Every time he turned out, he would be 2 or 3 days getting them back. Feed 'em potatoes and chicken bones that night and hunt the next morning. Again they would run for a day or two. After about 3 weeks they looked like hell but, they would still run a deer all day and half the night.

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I always get a chuckle out of these "Which Dogfood" threads. My grandpa always had a deer hound or two in the 40's and 50's. They ate table scraps. Mostly boiled potatoes and chicken bones. Every time he turned out, he would be 2 or 3 days getting them back. Feed 'em potatoes and chicken bones that night and hunt the next morning. Again they would run for a day or two. After about 3 weeks they looked like hell but, they would still run a deer all day and half the night.

This reminded me of an Ol feller telling me one time how to teach a dog to go hunt. He said don't water them for 2 or 3 days and they will go hunting, lol.

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I grew up on a farm and can never remember my dad buying a bag of dog food or a wormer.

He always said dogs can eat the left over scraps and they will finds a grass to eat that will kill the worms.

I can not believe the vet prices any more a 4 oz bottle of ear mite medicine $20.00 that's crazy I make my own guaranteed to work 1/3 peroxide 1/3 red vinegar and 1/3 alcohol used it for years.
Now they want you to pay a $20.00 office fee to just put you and a dog in a room and wait for the vet to come around and ask you what is wrong with the dog.

Only $20.00 for an office visit,,that's cheap,,I need to find me one that cheap
I have 2 vets.,,one is $39.00 a and the other is $41.00 for just the office visit,,
That's why I do most of what needs done myself

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I like to get advice for things I have never dealt with. Whether it's good or not I welcome it all and pick out what I want. As far as obesity I think I'm alright. I train 2-3 times a day about 45 weeks out of the year.

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My Grandpa feed his deer dogs and rabbit dog, cornbread, and table scraps. And they never hunted on Sundays, NEVER!

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Hayseedlady
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I've cut the dog's outside feed just because they are getting so much game. I've fed Diamond for the past 20 years.

Last night Grace came loping down the driveway with a pheasant softly heald in her mouth looked like a German Shorthair. It was too skinny to dress out so I tossed it over the fence, might as well make her work to find it again.

I do need to run wormer through the animals soon.

Just got back from the vet, same day squeezed in $29 office visit.

It might be the chemicals from the farmers but health issues could also be from the city water. That is full of chemicals too.

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I like to get advice for things I have never dealt with. Whether it's good or not I welcome it all and pick out what I want. As far as obesity I think I'm alright. I train 2-3 times a day about 45 weeks out of the year.


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Yep, them **** farmers and their chemicals.lol you better worry bout drinking water, and dog food, more than what I spray on my fields.

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I can tell a difference in some of it. Mainly how much they crap. They crap all over the pen. You could probably do better.

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Agriculture chemicals

As a licensed commercial applicator and farmer the chemicals we use should be pretty low on a people's list of concerns. Farmers don't want their chemicals ending up where it doesn't belong any more than you do not only for economical reasons but because they are good people and stewards of the land. Hunters and farmers face the same aggressors and need to stand together.

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The farmers in my area don't like being exposured to the chemicals they have to use to be profitable. I've never heard a farmer talk about how much he enjoys being around chemicals

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The Deer & Turkey you hunt, then eat is in the same batch of chemicals sprayed on fields. They are also eating the freshly sprayed plants.

My well sits between 3 fields, it has the cleanest, sweetest water you'll find. Tap water from work smells stale & tastes foul, people say it's good water. The fluoride & purifying agents in public water can't be good for dogs.

Although the we've all seen a dog lap up some nasty stuff.

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Go to the grocery store and look at the options ya got now. Organic grass feed steroid antibiotic free cage less .It all boils down to marketing to make more money .IF you feed the all natural stuff to your dogs do you by it for your self and eat it? I feed the same corn based feed I been feeding 4 the last 20 years dogs are in good shape,Dogs got hot last night and so did I . feel like temp. was 80 degrees .lol

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Re: Agriculture chemicals

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As a licensed commercial applicator and farmer the chemicals we use should be pretty low on a people's list of concerns. Farmers don't want their chemicals ending up where it doesn't belong any more than you do not only for economical reasons but because they are good people and stewards of the land. Hunters and farmers face the same aggressors and need to stand together.


Lol I can take you to several places where jugs of chemicals have been thrown along drainage ditches{with water in them} and fence rows.
Not Every Farmer is caring of the Enviroment or the wildlife.Most around me would be happy if the was NO wildlife to damage their crops!!
Pulled into fields where the chemical smell was burning my nose.Didn't turn out there.I bet 3 days later the chemical is still there to be breathed in!!We can't smell,bet the hounds can!!

Hounds breathing pestisides and weed killer 'chemicals' off the ground{we all hunt field edges}can"t be good long term.

We put our Chocolate Lab to sleep a yr ago.He was 21yrs old!
90% inside dog his entire life.Hips and bladder were shot.60% blind and 100% deaf.Heart was a strong as a Ox.
No cancer,no Thyroid problem.

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