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I have looked at both rule 11, and page 88 of the advisor in reference to
my question. It's a four dog cast, and three dogs are handled and scored
on a circle tree. My dog is split 100 yards away, and is not called treed
untill they pull the other three off of the circle tree. Is my dog required to
hold the tree for five minutes, or can we go score him? Technically all
dogs are not treed, but all competing dogs are leash locked! In my humble
opinion it doesn't matter, but the wording is as it is. I think you would just
handle him, right?

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The three dogs are considered treed until unleashed.

Your dog is called treed before the other three were released, all dogs are considered treed so you do not run the five on the last dog

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The three dogs are considered treed until unleashed.

Your dog is called treed before the other three were released, all dogs are considered treed so you do not run the five on the last dog

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Yes, l understand what you are saying ( I agree) I just had this come up in a cast. Where in the rules does it explain that all dogs are considered treed untill recast. I haven't found it, and I've been looking for days.

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Tree for 5 mins unless all dogs are treed

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Rule 2 might be what's you looking for .

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Charles Pullen
Rule 2 might be what's you looking for . [/QUOTE

Points are not in question. I don't understand how it would have anything to do with the question

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Those dogs are leash locked they got to lead to you anyway.

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I know, but do I wait five minutes or just go right to him?

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If 3 are on leash after you scored their tree & 4th dog trees then go straight to him . No 5 needed on 4th dog if you treed him . If declared then go straight to 4th dog .

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Yes, l understand what you are saying ( I agree) I just had this come up in a cast. Where in the rules does it explain that all dogs are considered treed untill recast. I haven't found it, and I've been looking for days.

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I have read the advisor twice this week. I am really looking for an interpretation from Allen G. on this one. I think I'm right as are you, but I need a reference to make my point.

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The three dogs are considered treed until unleashed.

Your dog is called treed before the other three were released, all dogs are considered treed so you do not run the five on the last dog

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Originally posted by Todd_Miller
Good call right there!! You do not wait the 5

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Originally posted by Todd_Miller
Good call right there!! You do not wait the 5

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Call me crazy but i beleive yhe back of a score card tells us that if a split tree is declared judge will give handlers permission to handle their dogs.

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First edition Advisor. Page 94. Reminder 1 at the top of the page.

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There is not a specific rule stating this exact question because there are 2 rules being placed at 1 time.

I don't have a card Infront of me so I can not say the exact location of the rules. But....

In this case there is only 1 dog off leash that's treed so all dogs are considered treed.

The other 3 are not still considered treed, rather leash locked.

You don't have to wait because at this point you are the only dog.

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First edition Advisor. Page 94. Reminder 1 at the top of the page.

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Sounds like the other guy needs to invest

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Sounds like the other guy needs to invest

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Here is your quote directly from the first edition Advisor:

"Reminder 1 - It is not necessary to wait the five minutes when three dogs are led away from a tree and the fourth guy in the cast declares his dog treed on a different tree. The reasoning is, because the three dogs on the leash are still technically considered treed until they are re-cast and when the fourth dog is treed, that means all dogs are treed and the cast may proceed directly to the tree."

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You will not read what you are looking for on the back of the card. They are right they are considered treed until they are released, but that is a ukc interpretation. Not a black and white rule on the back of the card. I'm sure it is in the adviser.

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Thank you all for the clarification. I knew I was correct, but it was a point of debate between a friend and i. Where can I get my hands on a first edition advisor, sense it is still a good reference?

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Thank you all for the clarification. I knew I was correct, but it was a point of debate between a friend and i. Where can I get my hands on a first edition advisor, sense it is still a good reference?

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