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How long after a coon goes up after feeding do you guys think scent lasts. I'm asking because I've been hunting 2 pups this fall, both are just about to turn a year old. They can definitely both run a hot coon track and tree, my male is a real nice tree dog, female is getting better. Anyway, I've been having trouble putting them on tracks I guess, because I keep taking them out several nights a week, but only hit hot tracks occasionally. There are coon around because I've seen lots laying up already, edges of corn fields, etc. When I walk them in that direction, they aren't typically picking up tracks, sometimes they pick up the lay up, although they aren't always treeing, mostly doing small circles boo hooing. Anyway, should I be concerned they can't pick up the track at this point, not sure how long the coon have been up, could be 10 minutes, could be 2 hours, I would think if it was only a few minutes they would have no problem finding, cause I know they can run a coon track. They are young so not too worried, but lots of nights I'm going and don't even get a bark. I see you guys running and treeing all these coons and not sure if I'm doing something wrong. Anyway, thought I'd ask for some advice from some other pa coon hunters.

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Originally posted by paridgerunner
How long after a coon goes up after feeding do you guys think scent lasts. I'm asking because I've been hunting 2 pups this fall, both are just about to turn a year old. They can definitely both run a hot coon track and tree, my male is a real nice tree dog, female is getting better. Anyway, I've been having trouble putting them on tracks I guess, because I keep taking them out several nights a week, but only hit hot tracks occasionally. There are coon around because I've seen lots laying up already, edges of corn fields, etc. When I walk them in that direction, they aren't typically picking up tracks, sometimes they pick up the lay up, although they aren't always treeing, mostly doing small circles boo hooing. Anyway, should I be concerned they can't pick up the track at this point, not sure how long the coon have been up, could be 10 minutes, could be 2 hours, I would think if it was only a few minutes they would have no problem finding, cause I know they can run a coon track. They are young so not too worried, but lots of nights I'm going and don't even get a bark. I see you guys running and treeing all these coons and not sure if I'm doing something wrong. Anyway, thought I'd ask for some advice from some other pa coon hunters.

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Without know exactly where you are hunting its hard to tell just what's going on with your hounds , it sounds like they have plenty of Desire and go they just need to be exposed more, you might want to look for some sign in the road where a coon has crossed and see if they can pick it up from there, I don't recommend doing a lot of feeder buckets but at least if you did that you would get on some fresher cent , give your pups some time they still have a lot to figure out before they become who they will be ! Good luck

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i think it depends a lot on the weather conditions and the dog both on how hot or cold a track is , i know the dogs we run bear with you can tell by their bawl about how hot or cold the track is and i got without a coon dog once and coon hunted a couple of them and i never seen a change up in their bawl or the mouth they gave on any coon track they ran and treed and one would think that some of the tracks would have been a lot colder than others , i think a dog that has a good nose can take a colder track and make it look hot and a dog that don't have that good of nose can make a hot track look cold ..

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Originally posted by paridgerunner
How long after a coon goes up after feeding do you guys think scent lasts. I'm asking because I've been hunting 2 pups this fall, both are just about to turn a year old. They can definitely both run a hot coon track and tree, my male is a real nice tree dog, female is getting better. Anyway, I've been having trouble putting them on tracks I guess, because I keep taking them out several nights a week, but only hit hot tracks occasionally. There are coon around because I've seen lots laying up already, edges of corn fields, etc. When I walk them in that direction, they aren't typically picking up tracks, sometimes they pick up the lay up, although they aren't always treeing, mostly doing small circles boo hooing. Anyway, should I be concerned they can't pick up the track at this point, not sure how long the coon have been up, could be 10 minutes, could be 2 hours, I would think if it was only a few minutes they would have no problem finding, cause I know they can run a coon track. They are young so not too worried, but lots of nights I'm going and don't even get a bark. I see you guys running and treeing all these coons and not sure if I'm doing something wrong. Anyway, thought I'd ask for some advice from some other pa coon hunters.

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Well I think if you are seeing more coon sitting up than your dogs are finding tracks then that is a pretty good indication that your pups are only opening on hot tracks. Now that doesn't necessarily mean they are not working those colder tracks, but at least the track it's self is not good enough to stimulate/trigger the bark reflex in your dog. But keep in mind your pups are still pretty young and will change somewhat in the way they operate from strike to tree as time goes on. But from what you are saying, I interpret it to mean there is a very good possibility that your pups are going to be hot to medium nosed. Not absolutely certain of that statement as I have seen some pups that are tight mouthed on track at that age and then by the time they reach 18 months they become much better at opening on track with less scent to work with.

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i think it depends a lot on the weather conditions and the dog both on how hot or cold a track is , i know the dogs we run bear with you can tell by their bawl about how hot or cold the track is and i got without a coon dog once and coon hunted a couple of them and i never seen a change up in their bawl or the mouth they gave on any coon track they ran and treed and one would think that some of the tracks would have been a lot colder than others , i think a dog that has a good nose can take a colder track and make it look hot and a dog that don't have that good of nose can make a hot track look cold ..

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Originally posted by paridgerunner
I've been hunting 2 pups this fall, both are just about to turn a year old....They are young so not too worried, but lots of nights I'm going and don't even get a bark.

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I have found that the coon are running much better the last 4 hours before day break than they have any other time of night. like you said I have been seeing coon sitting up the other times, but not getting much tracking mostly lay- ups and what tracks my dog has ran haven’t been very far and seem to be the first 2 hours after dark. My last trip to the woods I saw coon on the road ½ hour before dark. So just be patent once the weather gets steady they should go back to a normal pattern until then it is tough hunting for a young dog

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Originally posted by msinc
You should be thankful....your above statements are telling me you have two young dogs that are pretty darn straight and go hunting for coons not fox or deer!!!! Coon hunting can be a little tough this time of year, forget about what the rest of world is telling everyone they are doing, it's probably lies anyway. Make no mistake, a lot of guys wish they had two young dogs they could put in the woods and not make a bark when coons are not moving!!!!
If you are really worried about how cold a track they can run why not turn loose some coons and wait say 15 minutes later each time to see what they can do?? Don't show the dogs the cage and don't cut loose the same place twice.

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