Registered: Dec 2011
Location: Uniontown,Ohio
Posts: 141

Just wondering what people thought about having Ukc hunts where u have a 8-9pm. Deadline.and hunt all registerd dogs! Then say a 12-1am. Deadline for nt.ch.&gr.nt.'s to hunt?.. For the beaglers this works great! And the same handful of guys hunting and supporting the clubs can get several dogs hunted..just thought scince most of the hunts are down...this mite help!plus like myself,I know there's guys that have that nt.ch ther trying to Finnish,plus a promising young dog ther working as well..this way a guy could get em both hunted!,,just wondering what opinions wer on this?????

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Clarksville, AR
Posts: 1077

I really like the idea of double headers. The problem with separating open and Nt Chs would be that you're limiting your entry for each event.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Sep 2010
Location: New Paris, Indiana
Posts: 7076

You won't find many UKC clubs willing to send dogs to the woods at 1:00 AM.

__________________
UKC Nite Champion Stylish Harry's Trixie - 2017 World Hunt Qualified - Owners - Sizemore/Martin
PKC CH/UKC GrNtCh Stylish Kate - 9/12/08 to 9/23/2016 R.I.P - Owners Sizemore/Martin
AKC/UKC NtCh Sizemore's Timber Jam Jeff 5/2/2000 to 1/22/2012 R.I.P.
AKC/UKC GrNtCh Sizemore's Timber Jam Jessi 12/21/04 to 1/21/2011 R.I.P.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Mar 2009
Location: gillett PA
Posts: 545

I have to agree with Jim, clubs won't want to send cast to the woods at 1 am.
Also probably the clubs would end up having to have 2 event licenses as it would be a different day-date--so another night hunt license would be needed--more expense for the clubs.
do you think a hunt director or Master of hounds would want to stay up the added hours also for a few Nite chs?

__________________
Herschel Burt

hershtwo@yahoo.com
Life member NRA
Current dogs
GR CH NT CH RED MIGHTY 90-Bo/Sierra
NT.CH.GR CH BEYOND BILLY HTX --Billy the Kid/ Amber
GR CH 1ST & 2ND place wins 90/4 LIFE GUN-HTX==-Willy BOY/Bigtime Britt
Dogs I have owned
Nt ch Gr ch HERSHS HUNTIN RED IKE
NT CH CH HERSHS HUNTIN BUDDY
GR NT CH MILLERS DIRTY RED
NT CH CH LYNN'S CREEK JULIE
GR CH HERSHS HUNTIN RED KATE
CH NITE CH AMBRAW RIVER TIMBER ROCK
NT CH HERSHS HUNTIN RED CLEM
NT CH ROCKY TOP CHERRY

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Aug 2013
Location: Seneca, Mo
Posts: 5932

Double headers are done all the time in other Kc's but they are on 1 hour hunts they are becoming the norm for $30 weekend hunts with a mandatory split of $ and usually have a great turn out for early and late but the clock runs consectively the whole time you are walking to dogs , the entire hunt takes place from one hunting spot hardly ever move hunting spots & timeout is rarely called unless dogs are in danger . It won't work with a 2 a hr hunt especially a 2hr UKC hunt they take to long and deadlines are to late to start a separate hunt . Most our deadlines down this way are usually atleast 2 am on a UKC hunt sometimes later this time of year & ones with bigger turn out for those that have to drive farther for hunting .

__________________
Cheyenne & Jennifer Cummings
Seneca , MO
(417)317-4815
"TEAM MAFIA"
*NATIONAL GRNITECH GRCH GRNITECH(5) HALL OF FAME PKC PLATIUM CH REDNECK BACKWOODS SHACK
2014 OK STATE CH, 2015 MO PKC LEADER, 2016 PKC NATIONALS SEMIFINALIST, 2016 UKC TOP 20, 2O17 UKC WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP 3RD PLACE, 2018 PKC SENIOR SHOWDOWN TRUCK HUNT FINAL 4, 2018 MO PKC STATE CHAMPION, 2019 AUTUMN OAKS NATIONAL GRNITE CH, 2019 PKC WORLD CH SEMIFINALIST. 2021 PKC SENIOR SHOWDOWN TRUCK HUNT FINAL 4.
*PKC WORLD CHAMPION PLATNIUM CHAMPION GRNITECH SHACK'S HEATHER ISLAND SOUTHERN STOGIE
2021 OKLAHOMA STATE CHAMPION, 2022 PKC WORLD CHAMPION, 2022 MO PKC STATE LEADER PRO SPORT TRUCK WINNER, 2025 MO PKC STATE CHAMPION

RIP
*GRNITECH PKC SCH REDNECK MAFIA PKC HALL OF FAME REPRODUCER INDUCTED 2022
*GRNITECH CH PKC SILVER CH REDNECK SHACK ATTACK aka TAC 2018 OKLAHOMA STATE CHAMPION, 2020 MO PKC STATE LEADER

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Oct 2010
Location: Ohio
Posts: 6868

I think we as hunters should start brain storming ways to get more hunters involved in our sport.

I'll be honest and this isn't meant to sound like i'm bragging but finishing a dog to Grand Nite has became far to easy.

Maybe the answer is fewer hunts? I really don't know

__________________
Grand Nite Ch PKC CH(3) Main Street Blueberry Jam(Autumn Oaks Final 4 Grand Nite Ch 2015) UKC world finalist 2017 Ohio State Ch 2018
Grand Nite Ch(4) PKC Silver CH Main Street Blue SS quarterfinalist 2018. Autumn Oaks Grand 16 2018. Senior Showdown semifinalists 2020. UKC top 25 World hunt 2020. PKC quarterfinalist 2020
Grand Nite Ch HOF PKC Silver Ch Heatseaker Unleash the Kraken(Grand at 15 months old) BBOA Overall 1st place X2, Tournament of Champions Finalist, National Bluetic Days overall winner, Autumn Oaks Grand 16x2 PKC SS Semi Finalist PKC State Hunt Final 4 UKC World Top 20
GRNT CH BLUES AMAZING GRACE
Trevor Hack
567-231-7413

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Sep 2010
Location: New Paris, Indiana
Posts: 7076

The other KC is the other KC......what works with those guys will not nessesarily be accepted by these guys.
I use to say they both hunted the same dogs, same guys. But, at least in this area, that just isn't true anymore.

__________________
UKC Nite Champion Stylish Harry's Trixie - 2017 World Hunt Qualified - Owners - Sizemore/Martin
PKC CH/UKC GrNtCh Stylish Kate - 9/12/08 to 9/23/2016 R.I.P - Owners Sizemore/Martin
AKC/UKC NtCh Sizemore's Timber Jam Jeff 5/2/2000 to 1/22/2012 R.I.P.
AKC/UKC GrNtCh Sizemore's Timber Jam Jessi 12/21/04 to 1/21/2011 R.I.P.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Oct 2010
Location: Ohio
Posts: 6868

quote:

---

Originally posted by JiM
The other KC is the other KC......what works with those guys will not nessesarily be accepted by these guys.
I use to say they both hunted the same dogs, same guys. But, at least in this area, that just isn't true anymore.

---

__________________
Grand Nite Ch PKC CH(3) Main Street Blueberry Jam(Autumn Oaks Final 4 Grand Nite Ch 2015) UKC world finalist 2017 Ohio State Ch 2018
Grand Nite Ch(4) PKC Silver CH Main Street Blue SS quarterfinalist 2018. Autumn Oaks Grand 16 2018. Senior Showdown semifinalists 2020. UKC top 25 World hunt 2020. PKC quarterfinalist 2020
Grand Nite Ch HOF PKC Silver Ch Heatseaker Unleash the Kraken(Grand at 15 months old) BBOA Overall 1st place X2, Tournament of Champions Finalist, National Bluetic Days overall winner, Autumn Oaks Grand 16x2 PKC SS Semi Finalist PKC State Hunt Final 4 UKC World Top 20
GRNT CH BLUES AMAZING GRACE
Trevor Hack
567-231-7413

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jan 2012
Location: Goshen,Ohio
Posts: 2679

Easy for you to say Trevor.lol.Here you are granding dogs out before 2 years old and I can't get one good enough to enter a hunt before 2.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Oct 2010
Location: Ohio
Posts: 6868

quote:

---

Originally posted by Jackson87
Easy for you to say Trevor.lol.Here you are granding dogs out before 2 years old and I can't get one good enough to enter a hunt before 2.

---

__________________
Grand Nite Ch PKC CH(3) Main Street Blueberry Jam(Autumn Oaks Final 4 Grand Nite Ch 2015) UKC world finalist 2017 Ohio State Ch 2018
Grand Nite Ch(4) PKC Silver CH Main Street Blue SS quarterfinalist 2018. Autumn Oaks Grand 16 2018. Senior Showdown semifinalists 2020. UKC top 25 World hunt 2020. PKC quarterfinalist 2020
Grand Nite Ch HOF PKC Silver Ch Heatseaker Unleash the Kraken(Grand at 15 months old) BBOA Overall 1st place X2, Tournament of Champions Finalist, National Bluetic Days overall winner, Autumn Oaks Grand 16x2 PKC SS Semi Finalist PKC State Hunt Final 4 UKC World Top 20
GRNT CH BLUES AMAZING GRACE
Trevor Hack
567-231-7413

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: May 2010
Location: NorthWest Louisiana
Posts: 715

Jim said it all. Hoosier your statement sounds pretty selfish to me. You want someone to put forth the effort so you can hunt two. Why don't you get a master of hounds license. Then you and your buddies can make it where someone else can do this. There is not a prejudice from PKC, CHKC, or UKC. They all have their place. It just sounds like you want someone else to stay up all night so you can push two dogs.

__________________
David Disotell
(318) 288-1917

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Oct 2010
Location: Ohio
Posts: 6868

quote:

---

Originally posted by rghnd123
Jim said it all. Hoosier your statement sounds pretty selfish to me. You want someone to put forth the effort so you can hunt two. Why don't you get a master of hounds license. Then you and your buddies can make it where someone else can do this. There is not a prejudice from PKC, CHKC, or UKC. They all have their place. It just sounds like you want someone else to stay up all night so you can push two dogs.

---

__________________
Grand Nite Ch PKC CH(3) Main Street Blueberry Jam(Autumn Oaks Final 4 Grand Nite Ch 2015) UKC world finalist 2017 Ohio State Ch 2018
Grand Nite Ch(4) PKC Silver CH Main Street Blue SS quarterfinalist 2018. Autumn Oaks Grand 16 2018. Senior Showdown semifinalists 2020. UKC top 25 World hunt 2020. PKC quarterfinalist 2020
Grand Nite Ch HOF PKC Silver Ch Heatseaker Unleash the Kraken(Grand at 15 months old) BBOA Overall 1st place X2, Tournament of Champions Finalist, National Bluetic Days overall winner, Autumn Oaks Grand 16x2 PKC SS Semi Finalist PKC State Hunt Final 4 UKC World Top 20
GRNT CH BLUES AMAZING GRACE
Trevor Hack
567-231-7413

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jun 2003
Location: North GA
Posts: 14388

I would put forth and let them hunt 2. Only problem is these ukc hunters get in no dang hurry to get back to club or finish hunt. Timeout, move , timeoutand over and stinking over. Aint time in a night to do that in north ga. Ive watched every single truck hunt cast be back and scores posted on computer. Meanwhile me hunt director at our little 4 cast hunt dont have a cast back at all. Im gonna start giving less time. They miss deadline. They just miss it.

__________________
Michael Ghorley

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jan 2009
Location:
Posts: 1175

quote:

---

Originally posted by GA DAWG
I would put forth and let them hunt 2. Only problem is these ukc hunters get in no dang hurry to get back to club or finish hunt. Timeout, move , timeoutand over and stinking over. Aint time in a night to do that in north ga. Ive watched every single truck hunt cast be back and scores posted on computer. Meanwhile me hunt director at our little 4 cast hunt dont have a cast back at all. Im gonna start giving less time. They miss deadline. They just miss it.

---

__________________
Billy Beckham
618-214-0065

PKC CH, GRNITECH Beckham's Hillbilly Bones

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Dec 2013
Location: WV
Posts: 394

quote:

---

Originally posted by Hoosier Man1
I think we as hunters should start brain storming ways to get more hunters involved in our sport.

I'll be honest and this isn't meant to sound like i'm bragging but finishing a dog to Grand Nite has became far to easy.

Maybe the answer is fewer hunts? I really don't know

---

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jun 2003
Location: North GA
Posts: 14388

quote:

---

Originally posted by Billy Beckham
Have you ever noticed it always the same guys that push the deadline?

---

__________________
Michael Ghorley

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jun 2013
Location: PA 16646
Posts: 1120

Lol more like shakin hunt time

__________________
Bryan Link
814-691-5732

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jan 2013
Location: Marietta
Posts: 10790

I know this is going to sound stupid why not get a handler for your other dog !!

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jan 2009
Location: berkeley springs w va
Posts: 448

the time out an move all depends on a guides woods an how dogs hunt.. i have a few big woods that you can stay in for 2 hrs if dogs dont blow out. but if they go all dif directions an screw up. you gota move.. an i have a few spots that are small an cant hunt 2 hrs in.. sometimes moving is what has to be done.. but i have been in indiana an shine a corn field an see 25 coon an we turn loose an tree one an then move.. that i believe is going to far

__________________
home of;;;;
FCH NITECH GRCH'PR'BOYDS NOCTURNAL PEG[walker] RIP

GRNITE CH GRFCH GRCH'PR' ALL GRAND HARRYS MAN HTX 2 [walker]

GRCH FCH WCH PR HARRYS BIG BAD BOOMER HTX

NITECH CH VIRGINIAS MIGHTY MOE

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: May 2007
Location:
Posts: 1009

Lucky to have a dozen dogs around here. I don't think many would stay for the late round, especially this time of year. The $kc guys stick around if they're pushing one in the state race or trying to get ticket. A piece of a performance point or a yellow slip is little incentive to hunt twice a night.

__________________
Shane

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jun 2006
Location: streetsboro ohio
Posts: 411

when you reward the high scoring dog and not cast winners they will continue to use timeout after timeout. I've said it before look at the scores for autumn oaks and pkc's labor day classic before you had the hunt off at oaks. It would take 500-800 pts to get you in at pkc's hunt where at autumn oaks if you didn't have over 1100 you didn't have a chance in heck to win that sucker. and more than likely you needed over 1500

__________________
TREE BLITZIN KENNELS
home of
Big Money Staxx
(pch big money x sch lil bit)

also future home to a bluetick that is going to hurt people's feelings just as soon as I find it!!!

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jan 2009
Location: berkeley springs w va
Posts: 448

you realy cant compair autum oaks. that is a one night hunt run off in 2 nights.. an its becuz of the amount of entrys... i try to figure out how come every question that gets put on this ukc mesage board always ends up compairing them to the other kc's.... if i aint mistakin they have a mesage board too

__________________
home of;;;;
FCH NITECH GRCH'PR'BOYDS NOCTURNAL PEG[walker] RIP

GRNITE CH GRFCH GRCH'PR' ALL GRAND HARRYS MAN HTX 2 [walker]

GRCH FCH WCH PR HARRYS BIG BAD BOOMER HTX

NITECH CH VIRGINIAS MIGHTY MOE

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: May 2007
Location:
Posts: 1009

quote:

---

Originally posted by walkerman75
i try to figure out how come every question that gets put on this ukc mesage board always ends up compairing them to the other kc's.... if i aint mistakin they have a mesage board too

---

__________________
Shane

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jan 2009
Location: berkeley springs w va
Posts: 448

agreed. i hunt in 3.. an i go by each ones way. i honestly dont want them all the same. nice to have deferences

__________________
home of;;;;
FCH NITECH GRCH'PR'BOYDS NOCTURNAL PEG[walker] RIP

GRNITE CH GRFCH GRCH'PR' ALL GRAND HARRYS MAN HTX 2 [walker]

GRCH FCH WCH PR HARRYS BIG BAD BOOMER HTX

NITECH CH VIRGINIAS MIGHTY MOE

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Dec 2006
Location: Springfield, Ga.
Posts: 4252

quote:

---

Originally posted by Billy Beckham
Have you ever noticed it always the same guys that push the deadline?

---

__________________
Robert " Rock" Johnson

Johnson Creek Kennels
home of:
UKC Grand Nite Champion "PR" Yadkin River Addkis. Deceased 12/11/2016 RIP

2009/2010/2011/2012 AKC GA. State Leader and Supreme Grand Nite Champion Yadkin River Addkis

2010 ACHA Georgia State Champion Grand Nite Champion Yadkin River Addkis

PKC Champion Yadkin River Addkis

Bright Eye Lights


Treeing Walkers

912-663-5287 cell (perfered)

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged