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Carl Fox
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What determines the kind of mouth a dog will have on it??

A female has 8 pups four females four males and none of them will have the same mouth on them most the times why are all their mouth's different?

Most peope in the same family sound quite alike men same family sound alike and so do the women.
I know we are humans and they are animals but i have always wondered why dogs have so many different mouths coming from the same litter.

Are there any particular reason each pup sounds different?

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Re: What determines the kind of mouth a dog will have on it??

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A female has 8 pups four females four males and none of them will have the same mouth on them most the times why are all their mouth's different?

Most peope in the same family sound quite alike men same family sound alike and so do the women.
I know we are humans and they are animals but i have always wondered why dogs have so many different mouths coming from the same litter.


My limited experience is the exact opposite of that. Out of a litter of 8 pups a friend of mine and I got 2 males that sound almost Identical and I had two females out of the same litter here that did not sound like the males at all but were carbon copies of each other.

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must have way to much free time on your hands. never once thought about that. lol

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Re: Re: What determines the kind of mouth a dog will have on it??

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My limited experience is the exact opposite of that. Out of a litter of 8 pups a friend of mine and I got 2 males that sound almost Identical and I had two females out of the same litter here that did not sound like the males at all but were carbon copies of each other.


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After my Boone dog got killed Sheriff Andy had a male off of him that I couldn't stand to listen to on video because he sounded so much like his Sire.

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Richard Lambert
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I have linebred and had the whole litter sound exactly the same. When you hunt 2 of the littermates together, you can't hardly tell them apart or tell them from their mother.

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Hunted with a line walkers years ago that had pretty distinct mouths but all had the same kind of mouth, lots of line breeding...

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Genetics...

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I had a female that when hunted with her mother the only way to tell the difference was hunting with them a lot. Sounded almost exactly the same.

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its genetic. Without a doubt. Lipper don't have 5,103 pups for nothing.

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After 35 years of line breeding, I can assure you that mouth, and for sure a good bawl mouth is the most difficult trait to maintain in a hound. It is definately genetic but is controlled by many inheritable factors, a few of which include, lung capacity, vocal chords, vocal muscling, exiteability, bawl tendency, chop tendency, etc.

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David i like your answer and i am not satisfied with most the answers i see on here for hearing and seeing is believing.

I am going to give you an example why. A friend of mine bred a nice Buck Creek female to Big Creek Rat Tat about 8 years ago and i to this day say that was the prettiest litter of pups i have ever seen every one completly Blanket back and every one made a coon dog most are nt.ch.or gr.nts.

I can take you tonight and show you three brothers out of that litter and one is bawl mouth all the way and chop on tree.
One is chop mouth all the way track and tree cramps my stomach to even here that dog bark.lol.

Third one is squall mouth on track and bawl mouth on tree.

What went wrong with that litter all good dogs but different mouths i say female side of breeding remember Buck creek female.
I have seen female pups out of Insane Cain and High-X-Pectation have squeaky sorry mouths and ever one knows that Cain and HighX-pectation has as big a mouths as anyone could want on a dog.
I believe it has a lot to do with the females and the wide chest big lung space which goes back to genetics which i know very little about.
I do know in the past i have bought pups out of big name stud dogs and at a year old would cull for having squeaky no account mouths but would run and tree ever breath.
Thats why to this day no matter how good the dog is i want keep a dog with a no account mouth just me i guess.

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iv seen some of those long jawed pot lickers, have to shorten it up a bit in the right places ! that is if they wanted to keep up at all
and what good is his mouth anyways if he don't use it right? makes no since for a hound to be Bawling all over creation if he's getting sand kicked in his face, I say shut up and Run Boy, your embarrassing your self along with me too . Some one told me one time the dog with the biggest mouth gets noticed the most his mistakes shine more than the rest lol

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David kind of summed it up. If you breed two dogs for the first time and they have two total different makeups as far as genetics are concerned, the pups could sound like anything. The more you family breed the more you should be able to nail down what the pups should sound like. I have a drop dead fred female and I have seen videos of other drop dead dogs treeing and you can tell they came from the same place. I am sure there are plenty out there with different mouths also. I have another female here that has a real good mouth and I have seen videos of two pups out of her that sound just like her. These are pups from litters she had before I got her. We were talking last night about her mouth and hoping it would be dominate if we decided to breed her.

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