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coonsmen
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Three nite hunt questions

It's been a while since I went to one of these so I figured I would read up on the rules. While doing so I had three questions arise.
First question:
If during your cast, all dogs Split tree from each other prior to the 5 being up on the first dog declared treed. The rules state that the trees can scored as to a matter of convience not in the order they treed.
The question is, are all dog leash locked till all trees have been scored?

Second?- In a four dog cast, If your dog trees by him self first and Before finishing scoring his tree, two other tree together leaving one still runing track.
I know I can recast my dog but if he goes to the other two dogs after their 5 is up and coon is seen. How is it scored?

Another version. Of above question.
What if same senarieo but while I'm score my tree, all other dogs in cast tree. Can I recast, and how is it scored if mine goes to their tree after their 5 is up.

Last question. Cellphone rule. Can it be on/off/silent/ left in truck?
I couldn't find it.
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Question 1 yes your leash locked until all trees are scored. Question 2 any dog that comes into a tree after tree is dead will get next available tree points and minused if coon is seen. If coon is not seen his strike and tree points get deleted. Carry cell phone just put it on silent.

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Ok. In regards to question2. If one dog is running and let say there's only a minute or two left on the other dogs tree. Do I have to cut after my tree is scored.
Or can I leash till other tree is scored

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Question #2 read rules 4f and 3e. You will have to strike your dog back in but if he comes into closed tree and you don't tree him you will not be minused tree because it is closed and you have no strike to minus because it has a line under it because you struck after they treed (shutout on). I hope this helps, but just read rules 4 and 3 that will answer your question. Basically in your question the strike and tree would be deleted.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lance Laymon
[B]Question #2 read rules 4f and 3e. You will have to strike your dog back in but if he comes into closed tree and you don't tree him you will not be minused tree because it is closed and you have no strike to minus because it has a line under it because you struck after they treed (shutout on). I hope this helps, but just read rules 4 and 3 that will answer your question. Basically in your question the strike and tree would be deleted

Rule 4f
If dog declared treed, after the five has elapsed no additional dog can be declared trees at that particular tree but if they come in to tree will get minus in track and nothing on tree if coon is seen

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The way I read 4f, I would get minused strike points in my situation. Maybe I'm wrong.

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Read 5k I think

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The rules have to be used together. 4F you get nothing on tree. That means you are not minused. Then 3e and 5b and 5h deals with the strike. You were shut out therefore you can not be minused on strike when you have no points to minus. Hope this helps.
After reading what I wrote I know it is about as clear as mud, but you can not be minused tree because of 4f. You can not be minused your strike because in this situation you have no strike to minus because you were shut out on strike. However, if you would have struck in before they treed you would be minused those points in the same senerio.

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The only way you get minused on tree is on a slick tree or off game. A dog treeing but not declared treed when the judge arrives will be minused next available position on off game or slick tree. If coon is seen your strike would be deleted instead of minused because you were shut out on strike.

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Question 1 yes your leash locked until all trees are scored. Question 2 any dog that comes into a tree after tree is dead will get next available tree points and minused if coon is seen. If coon is not seen his strike and tree points get deleted. Carry cell phone just put it on silent.



I believe the only time you get next available tree points is on slick tree or off game if they come in and coon is seen you only get min. strike, unless they have changed it.

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split tree

i thought if a dog was declared treed before your dog strikes in tnen you would not have any strike points and if the dogs all strike in and split tree they should all have first tree points.if a dog is struck in and a dog trees and is treed its five minutes the tree is dead and a dog falls in to that tree then it finished track and its track points are deleted

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