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Ron Moore
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This is my Mountain State Big Buzz dog. I haven't given him much of a chance the last couple of years but I've been hunting him quite a bit lately. He is chop and bawl on track and a hard, loud chop on the tree. He doesn't use much mouth on the ground unless it's hot. When you cut him loose, you pick him off a tree most of the time. Buzz is off the last litter out of my old Bud dog and Hanson's Bandit Blue Buttercup. He is heavy Morris' Blue River Boomer, top and bottom. I have no plans to breed him although I may raise a litter of pup's out of him later if I get the right female.

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This is my old Mountain State Big Bud dog. Bud will have been gone 4 years this Oct. 4th. Buzz was born the night Bud got killed. Buzz favors Bud quite a bit, in more than just looks. There are many good coon dogs from Bud and different females. I miss him every time I go to the woods.

I just wanted to let people know that I still have a couple dogs and I'm still hitting the woods. I'm also hunting a young female I got from Russ and Dan Downing. I call her Connie and she's starting to do things. She's a real looker with a nice mouth. Connie is off of Duel Ch. Downing's Treein' All Blue Duke and Russ' Treein' Blue Drum.

On a side note, if anyone knows where I can find a female out of Bud and my old Ch.Nt.Ch. Moore's Mountain State Bonnie II, please let me know.

Thanks, Ron

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Good looking hounds Mr. Moore. Ive never had an all blue before but might have to try one in the future.

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Good looking hounds Mr. Moore. Ive never had an all blue before but might have to try one in the future.

Thanks for the kind words. We have been hunting all blues for some years now. I was first introduced to them back in the early 70's. There are several different strains of all blue hounds but the ones we concentrate on are mainly from the Morris' Blue River Boomer stock, out of Ohio, or as most people call them,"Boomer Breeding". I plan on putting Buzz' pedigree up later to show what influences he has. We like him very much and he is only getting better. He has the typical "Boomer" drive and stamina along with fast tracking ability and a quick hard tree dog. Again thanks for the kind words and I wish you a great day.

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Mr. Moore what traits were dominant in that line of hounds? i'm looking to make some outcrosses with several different lines and would like info on what you think are the best traits your dogs pass on that might would help put something in mine. if there is anything faults that come along with it please fill me in cause mine have them too and don't want to double up on them.

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Mr. Moore what traits were dominant in that line of hounds? i'm looking to make some outcrosses with several different lines and would like info on what you think are the best traits your dogs pass on that might would help put something in mine. if there is anything faults that come along with it please fill me in cause mine have them too and don't want to double up on them.

thanks Eddie

How are you doing? Have you heard from Bill lately? I see him on here from time to time.
Traits: Hard going, plenty of stamina, wide hunters, usually have a big mouth, quick on track and tight, hard, tree dogs. Big in size, males usually run from 70 to 90 lbs. They range on how they open on track, I've seen them from very tight to wide open. As a general rule, most are not trashy at all and once shown climbing game, they will shy away from fast game. They generally start fairly easy and are coon crazy. Bud was running and treeing his own at 8 months, ( with no prior training, all natural). Buzz started late, around 10 months. His two brothers started between 5 & 7 months but Buzz finished out better. It veries sometime.
Here are some things I would like to change on the ones I have or had in the past from this breeding: A little closer hunters, they tend to be a little hard headed, especially when they're trailing. Some are a little strange in the kennel, especially if they don't know you. Bud didn't warm up to strangers well but once in the timber, nothing bothered him, in other words, not just anyone could take him out of his kennel. Depending on what female he was bred to, some were a little YA YA on the tree, not mean, just didn't want another dog pushing them around. If it came to fighting, they don't like to fight.
All in All, they suit me fine and one big thing is, They look like a hound should! There are many dogs, from Bud or his offspring, all accross the country that are doing their part in pleasing people and treeing coon every night. Some love them some don't but then again, everyone don't like Chevy's, Dodges and Fords either. Eddie, you have a great day.

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Rose Bud

WE are still hunting a full sister to Buzz nice hound real tree dog tight mouthed medium hunter. My old hunting buddy Carl Robb keeps her hunted up during season.

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thanks Ron! I haven't heard from Billy in quite some time but going to call him and check in on him soon.

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Re: Rose Bud

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WE are still hunting a full sister to Buzz nice hound real tree dog tight mouthed medium hunter. My old hunting buddy Carl Robb keeps her hunted up during season.

Hi Ron,
How have you been? I thought you sold Rose Bud. She's the only one in that litter that I know anything about, except Buzz. Guess I need to call Wayne and see where the rest of them went. You gonna' raise any pups off of Rose Bud? Keep me in mind if you do. Stay in touch.

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Buttercup

I was thinking my friend's dog is out of Buttercup. I know it's out of Bud and she is all blue. Dave

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We still packin plenty of the old Boomer blood via bud up here in Wisconsin there Ron! And loving it! Got 5 dogs at my house and only one with tan trim! Lol! Now if I'd just get my but in gear and get pushing them! Once work slows down here hopefully! Hope that female is pleasing ya well! Take care!

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Re: Buttercup

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I was thinking my friend's dog is out of Buttercup. I know it's out of Bud and she is all blue. Dave

Could be Dave, there are several all blue ones around out of Bud. If she is coming 4 years old in Oct, then she's a litter mate to my Buzz. Good hearing from you ole Buddy, hope you are doing well.

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Wow Dan!

Danged if you don't have a bunch. Those are some real lookers. Our pups down here out of Duke are doing well. Tim's male is really turning the crank, a real nice tree dog with a good mouth. My little female was really slow to start and I even considered letting your Dad have her back but all at once, she started treeing the cat. Now she's going with Buzz all the way to the tree, and believe me when I say, tagging along with Buzz is a chore all in it's self. LOL. Anyway, she starting to run track and tree some now. I think she's gonna' be fine. Those are some really nice pics. I am going to get some more on here soon. Have a good one.

Ron

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Pedigree

Buzz' 4 generation pedigree plus Morris' Boomer in 5th

----------------------------------------Gr Nt Ch Morris' Blue River Boomer
------------------------------------Nt Ch Clear Creek Bar
------------------------------Gr Nt Ch McAllister�s Blue River Buck
-----------------------------------Cold Run Blue Cass
-----------------------Nt Ch Ch Ever Ready Blue Tree Huggin Slug
-----------------------------------Ch Nt Ch Brush Creek Bush Hog
------------------------------Nt Ch Ever Ready Blue Mountain Dew
-----------------------------------Thompsons Blue Pepper
MOUNTAIN STATE BIG BUD
-----------------------------------Nt Ch Burton�s Clear Creek Cooner
-----------------------------Hill's Bar

----------------------------------Nt Ch Burton's Clear Creek Molly
-----------------------Davis' Forever Blue Kelly
---------------------------------Gr Nt Ch McAllister�s Blue River Buck
----------------------------Nt Ch McAllister�s Blue River Sweety
---------------------------------Burton's Clear Creek Susie

MOUNTAIN STATE BIG BUZZ

---------------------------------Gr Nt Ch Northern Bl Jet V
------------------------------Mar-Mack Blue Jeb
---------------------------------Scotts Creek Nell
--------------------------Nt Ch Fisher's Midnight Joe
---------------------------------Nt Ch Setty's Tree Sining Chief
------------------------------Mar-Mack Blue Jets Fly
----------------------------------Setty's Mt. Unger Blue Fern
HANSON'S BANDIT BLUE BUTTERCUP
----------------------------------Clear Creek Thunder
-----------------------------Nt Ch Burton's Clear Creek Cooner
----------------------------------Clear Creek Fly
--------------------------Hunter's Westwinds Ruby Blue
----------------------------------Peter's Clear Creek Boon
-----------------------------Nt Ch Burton's Clear Creek Molly
----------------------------------Swamp Magic Strawberry

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Ron , if I could figure out how to load pictures id post my blue dog that has some of those MS dogs up close. He's an all blue looker 30 months old and getting better all the time .For the heck of it I put him in a pkc hunt .I didn't know the rules but he won the hunt LOL !

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Ron , if I could figure out how to load pictures id post my blue dog that has some of those MS dogs up close. He's an all blue looker 30 months old and getting better all the time .For the heck of it I put him in a pkc hunt .I didn't know the rules but he won the hunt LOL !

That's great, do you know which Mountain State dogs he shows in his ped. Congrats on your win.

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Hi Ron Rose Bud is a buddy agreement. Carl told me to price her and I did with stipulations. The papers are still in my name. He is a good old boy that Has bought his last three dogs from me and has kept and hunted each till death do you part. He is 72 and still hits it hard in coon season, we have known each other for over 30 years now. Great friend! We hunt together a good bit during kill season. Rose is a beautiful hound! I can raise a litter from her if I would choose to do so. We should talk sometime. Take care.

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Ron It's MS Bud and MS Brandy . Send me your phone number and ill send you a video or pics .

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Hi Ron Rose Bud is a buddy agreement. Carl told me to price her and I did with stipulations. The papers are still in my name. He is a good old boy that Has bought his last three dogs from me and has kept and hunted each till death do you part. He is 72 and still hits it hard in coon season, we have known each other for over 30 years now. Great friend! We hunt together a good bit during kill season. Rose is a beautiful hound! I can raise a litter from her if I would choose to do so. We should talk sometime. Take care.

Ron, a good hunting buddy is worth all the dogs I've had in the past. I still hunt with Tim, you met him the night we hunted together up Wayne's. He and I have been hunting together sense he was 14. He got his first pup off of me. He's 34 now. I've slowed some but we managed to make a couple of drops tonight and hunted 4 nights last week. Gotta' love it. I'd like to get together this fall and hunt with Rose Bud. Maybe we can all meet up at Wayne's again. Stay in touch.

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Ron It's MS Bud and MS Brandy . Send me your phone number and ill send you a video or pics .

Sent you a pm.

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mr. moore, seeing that ol' boomer went back to grant stock a good bit your description of that lines hunting style didn't surprise me all that much. my big blue/gascon stock goes back pretty much to the same stock of dogs. I was wondering if you had noticed one trait in particular. it seems that lines throws more dogs that are good at treeing layups. no track, just going along and falling treed. I've had several that would tree on scent pocket as it fell to earth. terrible for a night hunt but for just an old hide hunter like me it's something I like. I've heard of some Vaughn or old joccassee valley stock that did it but not as much as the dogs I've seen stemming from grant stock.

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I haven't witnessed much lay up ability although Bud was great at winding a track from quite a distance. I noticed some of our dogs just falling treed sometimes but I believe that's just due to tight mouth. My old Bonnie II (Cassie) was very good at laying one up. The night I finished her out, she just fell treed and had a coon that the other dogs couldn't even open on. She was an open dog. If I could think of one trait that was dominant in our dogs, it would be stamina. Don't seem to be any quit in them. Thanks for the post and have a great day.

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"ALL BLUE BOOMER DOGS"

I love seein these,all of'um!!

There is some pockets yet of "The Good Stuff" I'm happy to see bein maintained & built on!

Ron, the females from that cross where later starters but I kinda expected that. Not the females per say but the litter. Mine, "Betty" has an unreal mouth on her. LOUD hill ringer.

Good Luck with "Buzz" & "Connie"!!!

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Sorry

I haven't been on here in a while. Last Monday, my huntin' partner, Tim and I went hunting and had a good time. 4:00 AM the next morning I woke up with some pretty bad stomach pain. I missed work that day and later that night I got my wife out of bed to take me to the hospital. Unbelievable pain! I was diagnosed with appendicitis. At 5:00 AM, Wednesday morning, I was on the choppin' block. My appendix had ruptured. I just got out of the hospital Sunday. You talkin' about an eye opening experience! I'll be on the back burner for a while. I should be in good shape for coon season. Man, I was really gettin' some quality huntin' in too. Oh well, I'll get back in it before you know it. Happy hunting all. This weather is great.

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Re: "ALL BLUE BOOMER DOGS"

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I love seein these,all of'um!!

There is some pockets yet of "The Good Stuff" I'm happy to see bein maintained & built on!

Ron, the females from that cross where later starters but I kinda expected that. Not the females per say but the litter. Mine, "Betty" has an unreal mouth on her. LOUD hill ringer.

Good Luck with "Buzz" & "Connie"!!!

You're right Russ. Still a pocket or two left of the good stuff.
Sounds like ole Betty is a real ear pleaser. I love a good mouth on a dog especially here in these hills and hollers. I think Connie is gonna be fine. Just a little slow startin'. Our kill season comes in on the middle of Oct so we can pour it on them. Tim loves his dog. Have a good one

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What got me started

This is the ole raw boned dog that really got me hooked on Boomer dogs. This is a pretty old picture. That's my son and me with Nt Ch Moore's Simpson Creek Blue. My son will be 40 this Oct. 7th to give you an idea when this picture was taken. Blue was directly out of Shelton Morris' Boomer and Hanlon's Bell who was a grand daughter to Sabastian's Penny. The differences I see in now' a day Boomer stalk and him is the one's I have seen today aren't as trashy. Still have great stamina and tree power. This pic sure brings back a lot of great memories.

I sure would be interested in seeing some dogs that is out of Bud or goes back to him or just hearing about some that we may not know of.....Ron

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