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still think this would be good idea ,more hunters go to one hr. hunt than two hr. in PKC every one is getting older with new knees and hips or sore spots and they seem to be able to do one hr. hunts ,in the summer not dark till 10:00 PM

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If you cut the time then you need to cut the minus points in half too which means 200- your out

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I think a 3 or 4 hour hunt every now and then would be nice as well

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**** these dogs this day and age can't hunt 3 or 4 hours most of them can't stay out of the hole in a 2 hour hunt lol

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yes I know that would be in my best interest lol I train coon hounds

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I have stated about 1 hr. or 90 minute hunts for years in ukc. But, it just gets tossed around and seems no one takes it to seriously. For me, my vote would be heck yea they would be great!! Especially for local hunts. Big hunts 2 hours should still be the norm. JMO
I might add that it might make room for some exciting hunt results such as really fast paced action by handlers and dogs.

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Years ago the UKC hunts were 3 hours long. Clubs had 3 or 4 times more hunters at those hunts than show up today.Then people started whining and crying about how the hunts were to long and wanted them cut to 2 hours, to get more people to come out an hunt. Apparently that hasn't worked so well since barely enough hunters show up to make 3 cast. Now people want a one hour hunt, turn loose one time, score dogs and go back to club. I like the longer hunts because it gives all dogs a good chance to recover from an early miscall or mistake. On the weekends people will lay out all night coon hunting, but make it a nite hunt and they can't hunt but one hour.

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If a man cant see that we have lost a crap load of hunting territory to development. He must really live in the sticks. I dont see how he even has internet. No way most folk could guide 3hr hunts any longer. Hardly can 2hr hunts. Thats the reason we dont have the hounds we use to. Lack of hunting. That and to many city slickers nowdays. Kids dont hunt. You can't get them outside. If you can still guide 3 hrs. Go for it. You can still have a 3hr hunt. My guess is though. Most never even guide a 2hr hunt.

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J I,
I agree with a lot of what you are stating, but I agree with GA DAWG. In my neck of the woods, its very very hard to quide a 2 hr. hunt. Our hunting territories are very small anymore. If you use the time outs and such as the rules state you can recover from an early miscall. As, I stated in an earlier post it would be very interesting for some more exciting hunts. As the old saying is: Do it quick, either sh** or get off the pot. LMBO. These are just opinions.

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One hour UKC casts are already here. The warmups for AO at Liberty are one hour casts. I have no doubts week night hunts are coming much as I believe that would be a huge mistake. It is an unfortunate fact of life that today's generation of coonhunters prefer to hunt less while being credited for more. They want to win, they just don't want to put in two hours getting there.

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It's pretty sad when MOST guys can go out and hunt three or four hours during the week, but yet when it comes time to guide a cast they don't have any place they can guide for two hours... YA RIGHT!!!!!!!

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I'm not saying go back to the 3 hour hunts, but 2 hours ought to be the minimum. I know we have lost a lot of the hunting grounds we had, especially here in WNC with the influx of people that do not like hunting of any kind. From mid August until the last of March I can guide 3 hour hunts, but they wont be on feed buckets and it might be as steep as a horse's face which would give them something else to cry about. Image hunting non-feed bucket coons.

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Heck ya! Let's have 1 hour hunts during the weeknights and double headers on the weekend! That's my vote. We've done discussed this until were blue in the face. Its up to the fine people in Michigan now!

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I enjoy them all, but its hard to justify 3 hours of drivin for a 1 hour hunt so i dont attend many. If you live where you have a bunch of clubs close they would be fun.
The best of times were the old 3hr. hunts with 30 or 40 dogs,and a 4am. deadline. i can remember lots of mornings walking out of the clubhouse after breakfast and the sun would be up,most everyone went back to the club after the hunt because you could place without winning your cast. Those days are gone forever,its a shame.

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Around here Clubs have a hard time hunting 2 hours due to less places to hunt. Hour hunts would help clubs out around here alot.

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John if you and I keep talking about those old 3 hour hunts and 4:00am dead lines where everybody came back to the club house because they always had a big breakfast and you could place in the hunts, people are going to figure out we're a couple of old geezers. We don't have the same mindset in the sport as we did years ago, it truly is a shame.

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How would you do the points system on 1 HR hunts? 1st place= 20. 2nd place=15. 3rd = 10? Nitech cast = 1/2 a win? It'd work! Let the clubs have 2 one HR hunts (double headers) on the weekend with the price of 1 hunt. Be financially better for clubs. And give the clubs an extra 7 hunts a year for the 1 HR hunts during the week! This would be a win win for ukc and the clubs! Put it on the agenda Allen! Get this thing in motion and lets get em started! Cause I guarantee you, most clubs will be filling their schedule quick with em!

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I think a one hour hunt in UKC would be harder to guide than a two. We have alot of patch woods huntin and in a 2 hour hunt you have time to hit several spots, and score on several quick coon. In a one hour hunt you gotta have a big spot where you can recut. Remember in $KC you only have to win your cast, in UKC. you gotta beat them all.

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Just stay out of trouble and tree a coon and you'll be fine. Plus, there'll probably just be 1 cast of open dogs and 1 cast of nitech dogs. Just win you're cast and let the chips fall where they may!

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Around here Clubs have a hard time hunting 2 hours due to less places to hunt. Hour hunts would help clubs out around here alot.

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If UKC allows one hour hunts besides in conjunction with their couple major events I know of a few people that will quit going. Myself included

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I don't think its about the handlers that want a cheap easy title, I think it's more for the guys at each club that do the work, and guide, and judge EVERY time there is a hunt. Every club I have hunted at uses the same guides every time, and pretty much the same for judges.

It's all because ol Captain Crybaby, who hunts on whoever he wants during the week is a jealous little jerk and doesn't want someone to find out how good his hunting is. How exactly do these guys get a "go yonder" type of hound ready during the week but can't guide during the weekend? lol
But, the 5 guys who actually do the work at the club barely have time to get hunt report complete, clean up and be home barely before the sun comes up.


I can do all the cleaning, have paper work complete, pay out winners and be home by 11:00 when we have a 1 hour $kc hunt. A 2 hour UKC hunt during the weekend I can't be home before 3:00 AM. And we'll continue to do it because we love to do it. But don't call the guys doing all the work whimps, crybabies or lazy because they want to cut their time down just a little bit.

in my opinion.

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How would you do the points system on 1 HR hunts? 1st place= 20. 2nd place=15. 3rd = 10? Nitech cast = 1/2 a win? It'd work! Let the clubs have 2 one HR hunts (double headers) on the weekend with the price of 1 hunt. Be financially better for clubs. And give the clubs an extra 7 hunts a year for the 1 HR hunts during the week! This would be a win win for ukc and the clubs! Put it on the agenda Allen! Get this thing in motion and lets get em started! Cause I guarantee you, most clubs will be filling their schedule quick with em!

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I don't think its about the handlers that want a cheap easy title, I think it's more for the guys at each club that do the work, and guide, and judge EVERY time there is a hunt. Every club I have hunted at uses the same guides every time, and pretty much the same for judges.

It's all because ol Captain Crybaby, who hunts on whoever he wants during the week is a jealous little jerk and doesn't want someone to find out how good his hunting is. How exactly do these guys get a "go yonder" type of hound ready during the week but can't guide during the weekend? lol
But, the 5 guys who actually do the work at the club barely have time to get hunt report complete, clean up and be home barely before the sun comes up.


I can do all the cleaning, have paper work complete, pay out winners and be home by 11:00 when we have a 1 hour $kc hunt. A 2 hour UKC hunt during the weekend I can't be home before 3:00 AM. And we'll continue to do it because we love to do it. But don't call the guys doing all the work whimps, crybabies or lazy because they want to cut their time down just a little bit.

in my opinion.

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I THINK IT SHOULD BE OPTIONAL LIKE PKC. PERSONALLY DONT HUNT COMP. HUNT ANYMORE BECAUSE OF HEALTH BUT I WOULD BE MORE INCLINED TO HUNT 1 HOUR HUNTS

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